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		<title>Introducing The Dream Vitality 6&#215;6 CYL Program</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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Give me...
<ul>
	<li><strong>6</strong> phone consultations</li>
	<li><strong>12</strong> weeks of e-mail exchanges</li>
	<li><strong>3 </strong>conference calls</li>
	<li><strong>12-15</strong> work outs</li>
</ul>
And with a bit of self discipline (can you exercise <em>once</em> per week?), I can <strong>C</strong>hange <strong>Y</strong>our <strong>L</strong>ife.

I would say just your body, but quite a bit more is bound to change - I know it did for me. I went from a flabby low of 161 pounds, to a <strong>solid</strong> 196 in less than 2 years, dramatically increasing my strength.

The most interesting part?
<blockquote>
<h3>I went from exercising  1-2 hours <strong>per day</strong>, 7 days <em>a week</em>, YEARS on end ... to exercising about once per week, 10 to 30 minutes per session.</h3>
</blockquote>
My life changed. I felt <strong>better than ever</strong> once I stopped <em>over training -</em> physically, mentally, and emotionally. Not to mention the 10+ hours a week of free time that opened up, allowing me to focus on other areas of my life, more productively, effectively, and efficiently.

Fast forward to this past Spring, I decided I wanted to "lean up".

So I dropped down to 186 pounds in <strong>six</strong>...]]></description>
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<p>Give me&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>6</strong> phone consultations</li>
<li><strong>12</strong> weeks of e-mail exchanges</li>
<li><strong>3 </strong>conference calls</li>
<li><strong>12-15</strong> work outs</li>
</ul>
<p>And with a bit of self discipline (can you exercise <em>once</em> per week?), I can <strong>C</strong>hange <strong>Y</strong>our <strong>L</strong>ife.</p>
<p>I would say just your body, but quite a bit more is bound to change &#8211; I know it did for me. I went from a flabby low of 161 pounds, to a <strong>solid</strong> 196 in less than 2 years, dramatically increasing my strength.</p>
<p>The most interesting part?</p>
<blockquote>
<h3>I went from exercising  1-2 hours <strong>per day</strong>, 7 days <em>a week</em>, YEARS on end &#8230; to exercising about once per week, 10 to 30 minutes per session.</h3>
</blockquote>
<p>My life changed. I felt <strong>better than ever</strong> once I stopped <em>over training -</em> physically, mentally, and emotionally. Not to mention the 10+ hours a week of free time that opened up, allowing me to focus on other areas of my life, more productively, effectively, and efficiently.</p>
<p>Fast forward to this past Spring, I decided I wanted to &#8220;lean up&#8221;.</p>
<p>So I dropped down to 186 pounds in <strong>six</strong> weeks, with minimal effort, and  WITHOUT changing <strong>the types of foods</strong> I was eating, or increasing the frequency of my exercise program.</p>
<p>How did I do it, safely, effectively, and efficiently?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m going to share with <em>The Dream Vitality 6&#215;6 CYL Program</em>.</p>
<p><em>Dream Vitality</em> is a book I began writing in late 2008 as a follow up to <em>The Dream Way</em>, my first book that discussed dating, relationships, and personal transformation.</p>
<p>However, as the course of life events would have it, I have not been able work on the book in quite some time. I still get e-mails about it from time to time &#8230; just enough to keep it in the back of my head. I know deep down though that the chance of finishing it anytime within the next few years is slim to none. My focus is simply elsewhere (on this blog, and on <em>The 21 Convention</em>).</p>
<p>I love exercise, nutrition, health, fitness, and helping people though. These are things I am deeply passionate about. As such, I have decided to not let the time required to write, edit, and format a book stop me from doing what I love, and have decided to do this 12 week program in the stead of a book version of <em>Dream Vitality.</em></p>
<p>After all, what&#8217;s more powerful for changing YOUR life? A book, or a customized service where we talk one on one every step of the way?</p>
<p>Books are incredibly powerful tools no doubt, but at the same time, the obstacles are limitless when it comes to changing this area of your life. Books are <strong>static</strong>, this program is <strong>dynamic</strong>, and I believe, best suited for those who were originally interested in the book version of <em>Dream Vitality</em>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what were going to do.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I will take on 10 clients and 10 clients only.</span></p>
<p>Beginning Monday <strong>August 2nd</strong> I will call each of you personally to outline all of your goals with health, fitness, nutrition, exercise, and <em>life</em> for that matter.</p>
<p>On Wednesday <strong>August 4th</strong> we will have a 60 minute conference call that will be recorded (in case you miss it) where I answer any and all questions about the program, and about getting started.</p>
<p>For the following <strong>12 weeks</strong> you will have access to a private e-mail account of mine, created specifically for this program. You will be garunteed <strong>unlimited</strong>, in depth e-mail consultation during this time span, with a maxiumum of a 48 hour turn around time (I will respond within 48 hours or less, every single time).</p>
<p>For the <strong>first 6 weeks</strong>, we will schedule a time <strong>each week </strong>to speak for 30-45 minutes for a total of 6 phone consults via Skype or cell.</p>
<p>During these phone consults we will track your progress with your workouts, and nutrition plan in accordance with the goals we set on day 1. We will modify them accordingly. My brain is also yours to pick during this time span for any and all questions you may have.</p>
<p>At the <strong>conclusion of those first 6 weeks</strong> we will have another conference call (to be recorded if you miss it) for 90 minutes. During the conference call everyone will share and discuss their progress, obstacles, and success thus far.</p>
<p>The <strong>final 6 weeks</strong> will be e-mail exchanges only, with a garunteed response in 48 hours, or less.</p>
<p>At the conclusion of all 12 weeks a <strong>final conference call</strong> will be hosted for 90 minutes (to be recorded if you miss it).</p>
<p>In total you will get&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>6 phone consultations</strong> up to 45 minutes each, plus an initial goal setting phone consult.</li>
<li><strong>12 weeks of unlimited, private e-mail consultation</strong> with a guaranteed 48 hour turn around time.</li>
<li><strong>3 conference calls</strong> to share your ideas and progress with other clients on the program</li>
</ul>
<p>As a <strong>bonus</strong>, I will also personally review and critique any workouts you are able to record on video &#8211; even if it&#8217;s every single workout.</p>
<p>As an <strong>additional bonus</strong>, I will also include my 2009 speech titled &#8220;Proper Exercise &amp; Nutrition&#8221; on DVD, <strong>shipped free</strong> to your home.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter" src="http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs336.ash1/28941_390874402404_325059967404_4034500_4113043_n.jpg" alt="" width="346" height="330" /></p>
<p>This alone costs $25 normally, if shipped domestically. It&#8217;s your&#8217;s at no extra cost when signing on for <em>The Dream Vitality 6&#215;6 CYL Program</em>.</p>
<h2>Are there any requirements for the program?</h2>
<p>Yes, there are.</p>
<p>You must be very serious about changing your life to sign on for this program. While we will keep things as light hearted as possible, I do not want anyone taking up a spot who is going to waste my time and half ass things. There are other people who would be willing to take that spot, and it will piss me off if someone decides to just throw money at me and then waste my time, which I value far more than money.</p>
<p>Other than that you must have access to a gym of some kind. The type and variety of equipment is not so important as just having access to a gym. Free weights, machines, barbells, we&#8217;ll make it work. You just need access to a weight training facility.</p>
<p>Finally, you must follow what I prescribe nutritionally as close as humanly possible in relation to the goals we set for you. None of what I advise should be taken as medical advice of course, as detailed in the <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/contact/disclaimer/" target="_blank">disclaimer of this blog</a>, but you must be willing to try new things and not &#8216;cheat&#8217;, otherwise the program is simply not going to work.</p>
<p>Finally (finally), you must be willing to workout at least once per week, and no more than twice per week. Pretty straightforward.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s it. This is the best opportunity I&#8217;ve ever made to work with you guys. It is the best way to get inside my head and learn about the ideas I have that are months or even years away from being posted on TDL.</p>
<p>Things like</p>
<ul>
<li>Supplementation</li>
<li>Vitamin D</li>
<li>Eating awesome for next to nothing</li>
<li>Macro nutrient ratios for various goals</li>
<li>&#8220;anti-oxidants&#8221;</li>
<li>Sleep/stress related issues</li>
<li>Eating tips while travelling</li>
<li>Hygiene</li>
</ul>
<p>And loads more.</p>
<h3>The price for joining this program is $250.</h3>
<p>If you&#8217;ve read my blog and have been interested in starting (or getting more serious about) a dramatic lifestyle <em>overhaul</em>, I am here to help for the first 10 people to sign up. Once the program beings, new clients will not be accepted.</p>
<p>At the moment, this is a one time opportunity. It does not mean I will never do something <em>like</em> this again, but it does mean I will never do exactly this again, at this price, and with this much of my time dedicated to this number of people.</p>
<p>You can sign up below.</p>
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		<title>The Community Tapes [Volume 1]: Drew Baye</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 07:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<em>Drew Baye</em>: easily one of the most knowledgeable exercise authorities on the planet; has extensive experience training clients one on one, and is the author of the world’s most popular <em>high intensity training</em> blog. Drew has had the opportunity to meet and learn from the some of the most knowledgeable people in history regarding exercise, including Nautilus inventor Arthur Jones, Ellington Darden, Ken Hutchins, Jim Flanagan, Joe Mullen, John Little, Greg Anderson, Doug McGuff, Ryan Hall and others.

Drew was interviewed at his current training facility near his home in Altamonte Springs, FL and is on the verge of completing his first book. Visit his blog at <a href="http://www.baye.com" target="_blank">Baye.com</a>, and see his free ~2 hour presentation at <em>The 21 Convention</em> 2009 <a href="http://www.the21convention.com/2009/09/08/drew-baye-t21c-2009/" target="_blank">here</a> (or buy the <a href="http://the21convention.myshopify.com/products/the-21-convention-2009-drew-baye" target="_blank">DVD</a>).

Drew Baye is also confirmed to speak at The 21 Convention 2010 of Orlando Florida. <a href="http://the21convention.eventbrite.com" target="_blank">Sign up here</a> for a full access ticket, and <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/04/15/central-florida-exercise-nutrition-seminar-featuring-bill-de-simone-drew-baye-doug-mcguff-md-mark-sisson/" target="_blank">here</a> for a limited access ticket to health/fitness presentations only.]]></description>
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<p><em>Drew Baye</em>: easily one of the most knowledgeable exercise authorities on the planet; has extensive experience training clients one on one, and is the author of the world’s most popular <em>high intensity training</em> blog. Drew has had the opportunity to meet and learn from the some of the most knowledgeable people in history regarding exercise, including Nautilus inventor Arthur Jones, Ellington Darden, Ken Hutchins, Jim Flanagan, Joe Mullen, John Little, Greg Anderson, Doug McGuff, Ryan Hall and others.</p>
<p>Drew was interviewed at his current training facility near his home in Altamonte Springs, FL and is on the verge of completing his first book. Visit his blog at <a href="http://www.baye.com" target="_blank">Baye.com</a>, and see his free ~2 hour presentation at <em>The 21 Convention</em> 2009 <a href="http://www.the21convention.com/2009/09/08/drew-baye-t21c-2009/" target="_blank">here</a> (or buy the <a href="http://the21convention.myshopify.com/products/the-21-convention-2009-drew-baye" target="_blank">DVD</a>).</p>
<p>Drew Baye is also confirmed to speak at The 21 Convention 2010 of Orlando Florida. <a href="http://the21convention.eventbrite.com" target="_blank">Sign up here</a> for a full access ticket, and <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/04/15/central-florida-exercise-nutrition-seminar-featuring-bill-de-simone-drew-baye-doug-mcguff-md-mark-sisson/" target="_blank">here</a> for a limited access ticket to health/fitness presentations only.</p>
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		<title>Central Florida Exercise &amp; Nutrition Seminar Featuring: Bill De Simone, Drew Baye, Doug McGuff MD, &amp; Mark Sisson</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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Man I've been so busy with the convention lately it's absurd … but in a good way. Anyway, I wanted to take the time to announce the “<strong>Central Florida Exercise &#38; Nutrition Seminar</strong>”, which is more or less a sub set of <em>The 21 Convention 2010</em> being held in Orlando Florida July 22nd-25<sup>th</sup> that I've set up for locals*.
<blockquote>*I say 'locals' because as <strong>awesome</strong> as the line up is for this limited access ticket, I don't expect anyone to fly across the country for four speeches. People are more than welcome to of course, but I find that a bit unrealistic – hence the 'local' aspect of the ticket.</blockquote>
So, what is it exactly?

Four of the (in my opinion, and probably the opinions of most readers) <strong>top authorities</strong> in their respective fields, speaking at a 4 day convention in Orlando,FL – all content pertaining to exercise, nutrition, fitness, health, lifestyle, and any related synonyms one could come up with =).

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<p>Man I&#8217;ve been so busy with the convention lately it&#8217;s absurd … but in a good way. Anyway, I wanted to take the time to announce the “<strong>Central Florida Exercise &amp; Nutrition Seminar</strong>”, which is more or less a sub set of <em>The 21 Convention 2010</em> being held in Orlando Florida July 22nd-25<sup>th</sup> that I&#8217;ve set up for locals*.</p>
<blockquote><p>*I say &#8216;locals&#8217; because as <strong>awesome</strong> as the line up is for this limited access ticket, I don&#8217;t expect anyone to fly across the country for four speeches. People are more than welcome to of course, but I find that a bit unrealistic – hence the &#8216;local&#8217; aspect of the ticket.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, what is it exactly?</p>
<p>Four of the (in my opinion, and probably the opinions of most readers) <strong>top authorities</strong> in their respective fields, speaking at a 4 day convention in Orlando,FL – all content pertaining to exercise, nutrition, fitness, health, lifestyle, and any related synonyms one could come up with =).</p>
<p><em>The 21 Convention</em>, as most of you know, is focused on men, or even young men for that matter. But with that said, I find this event within an event applicable to anyone and everyone – including (and perhaps even especially) <a href="http://www.bodybyscience.net/home.html/?page_id=301" target="_blank">women</a>.</p>
<p>If you live locally, I highly recommend attending this part of the convention – girl, guy, 20, 30, 40, or even 50 years old.</p>
<p>The lineup is outstanding with <strong>Drew Baye</strong>, <strong>Bill DeSimone</strong>, <strong>Mark Sisson</strong>, and <strong>Doug Mcguff</strong>.</p>
<p>It was really fascinating to watch it grow so fast actually. One day it was just Drew (who also spoke <a href="http://www.the21convention.com/2009/09/08/drew-baye-t21c-2009/" target="_blank">last year</a>), the next it was Bill, then Doug (tentatively), then Mark – and then it hit me, “holy crap … this is going to be <em>epic!</em>&#8220;.</p>
<p>I will say however, the one speaker I REALLY wanted out in this field that I wasn&#8217;t able to get was Kurt Harris of <a href="http://www.paleonu.com/" target="_blank">PaNu</a>.</p>
<p>Would be icing on the cake I suppose =). But hey, I tried. Maybe next year.</p>
<p>There are other speakers I considered as well of course, like Keith Norris of <a href="http://theorytopractice.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Theory to Practice</a> and Stephan Guyenet of <a href="http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Whole Health Source</a>, but the roster is pretty packed at this point, and I really shy away from giving any speaker less than 45-60 minutes on stage (the above four I&#8217;m planning for 90 minutes a piece).</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just the tip of the iceberg on people I had in mind.</p>
<p>In any case, I think this is also a great opportunity to meet up with long time blog readers who live in the area, and as such I&#8217;m releasing a big discount code for the first ten TDL readers who are interested in attending, as I am far more interested in meeting and getting to know people face to face, than charging a higher ticket price (which somewhat reflects local advertising I have in the works for this ticket).</p>
<p>If you want the discount just leave a comment on this post and I will shoot you an e-mail with the $30 discount code.</p>
<p><strong>Other details</strong> buyers should be aware of.</p>
<ol>
<li>Tickets are non refundable. Once you sign up, that&#8217;s it. I have this policy because it is a <em>major</em> pain in the butt handling returns, especially after the 60 day grace period with Paypal ends. That said, all tickets to the event (including this one) are transferable at any time up to 5 days before the event begins, should you wish to give the ticket to a friend, or even sell it, etc. A link to do this is on the ticket page.</li>
<li>If you already signed up for the <a href="http://the21convention.eventbrite.com/" target="_blank">main event</a> (the entire convention), there is no need for you to buy this limited access ticket, unless it&#8217;s a gift or for some similar reason.</li>
<li>If you buy this ticket, attend the event, and wish to stay for more presentations not included with this ticket, your only option is to pay the difference between your ticket price, and the full door price of $400 – even if the convention is half over. I simply can&#8217;t cut deals left and right for people based on how many hours or days are left at the event =/. I tried this last year and I found out first hand it causes a LOT of head ache that disrupts my focus that is needed elsewhere at the convention.</li>
<li>On the plus side, since this is a limited access ticket, and it&#8217;s difficult to say which time and day each speaker will be presenting <em>right now</em>, you are guaranteed a DVD copy of each speech should you end up not being able to attend one, or even all of them.</li>
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<p>Meaning, if you only make it to 2 speeches and can&#8217;t attend the other two due to work, school, and so on, you will be shipped a DVD copy of the presentations you missed post event.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be keeping track of who enters/leaves the room for all tickets, and especially the limited access ones. So if you fail to show for one, you will be marked down for a DVD copy of that speech, and contacted later for a shipping address (and yes, shipping will be on us).</p>
<p>I should also mention, there are only 24 of 25 tickets left. I may or may not allot more for this limited access ticket, but that depends on how well the main event continues to sell, which thus far has been consistently almost triple what last year&#8217;s event sold.</p>
<blockquote><p>In other words, I have to give priority to the full access tickets. (And as the ticket page shows, there is a door price should you not wish to buy online, but those are not guaranteed to be available if the online tickets sell out).</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally, for those of you who live far and will not be able to attend for one reason or another, all the given presentations will be released for free online in streaming high definition (as well as being available on DVD).</p>
<p>This may make one wonder why attending live is worth $95 to $180 dollars, but if you&#8217;ve ever been to the convention, you know this is a moot point. Hearing a presentation live is always an experience in itself, and these four are top notch speakers, not to mention, you have the ability to ask questions in person, and perhaps even meet the speaker face to face.</p>
<p>In addition, all paid attendees will have access to any discounts offered live at the event (I believe Mark Sisson mentioned something along these lines), and access to the free footage before the general public.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Aright I&#8217;ll get off my soap box now. Hope to see a lot of you guys there.</p>
<p><a href="http://orlandofitness.eventbrite.com/" target="_blank">Sign up for the Central Florida Exercise &amp; Nutrition Seminar here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Drew Baye on &#8220;Health Care&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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This is a teaser clip from the soon to be released documentary series I and a few others have been working on over the past ~6 months.

We were actually planning on releasing a teaser clip of another speaker we interviewed from <em>The 21 Convention </em>this week, but I last minute decided to have a special teaser clip made of Drew, regarding his thoughts on 'health care', due to the events of last Sunday evening in the United States.

I would normally only post this on The21Convention.com, but I found it relevant to TDL due to the recent discussion of <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/22/does-our-generation-have-the-luxury-of-ignoring-reality/" target="_blank">similar topics</a> on here (not to mention the never ending debate on <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/" target="_blank">food</a> and <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/18/continuing-the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-in-a-world-gone-bonkers/" target="_blank">nutrition</a>).

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<p>This is a teaser clip from the soon to be released documentary series I and a few others have been working on over the past ~6 months.</p>
<p>We were actually planning on releasing a teaser clip of another speaker we interviewed from <em>The 21 Convention </em>this week, but I last minute decided to have a special teaser clip made of Drew, regarding his thoughts on &#8216;health care&#8217;, due to the events of last Sunday evening in the United States.</p>
<p>I would normally only post this on The21Convention.com, but I found it relevant to TDL due to the recent discussion of <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/22/does-our-generation-have-the-luxury-of-ignoring-reality/" target="_blank">similar topics</a> on here (not to mention the never ending debate on <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/" target="_blank">food</a> and <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/18/continuing-the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-in-a-world-gone-bonkers/" target="_blank">nutrition</a>).</p>
<p>For the record, Drew&#8217;s opinions are entirely his own, and do not necessarily reflect those of any organization he has played a role in past, present, or future. I obviously sympathize personally with his views though, as an individual, not as President &amp; CEO of The 21 Convention LLC.</p>
<p>In addition, the majority of Drew&#8217;s interview does not pertain to &#8216;health care&#8217;, it is far more focused on exercise &amp; nutrition &#8211; and as a result, this teaser clip does not do his full length interview (nearly 2 hours of total talk time) justice.</p>
<p>It is likely we will release another in the coming weeks that better reflects the content which he discussed, overall.</p>
<p>Visit <a href="http://baye.com" target="_blank">Baye.com</a> for more Drew</p>
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		<title>Continuing the Quest for Nutritional Truth in a World Gone Bonkers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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I've never been a big practitioner of turning comment replies in previous posts into full blog article discussion, but lately I've felt the “bug” to do so. This started with the <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/16/finer-points-of-nutrition-new-thoughts-on-ketosis/" target="_blank">Finer Points of Nutrition</a>, and it continues today. Hopefully I can keep things concise and to the point, unlike self-generated posts that turn into 8,000 word extended essays that seemingly try to debunk gravity =).

Reader Jeff <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/comment-page-1/#comment-5728" target="_blank">says</a>...
<blockquote>Either way, I personally thrive on natural carbohydrate.</blockquote>
Actually, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single human being on the planet that <em>thrives</em> off of carbohydrate instead of fat as their primary source of calories. Survive? Sure, couple billion people actually. But <strong><em>thriving</em></strong> and <strong><em>surviving</em> </strong>are two very different concepts.

For example, I could probably survive off of enough insects in a starvation situation, but <em>thrive</em>? Doubtfully. Eating two thousand and something calories a day of roaches and worms would be a horrendous task given my cultural and “culinary” history, assuming I could even find that amount to...]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve never been a big practitioner of turning comment replies in previous posts into full blog article discussion, but lately I&#8217;ve felt the “bug” to do so. This started with the <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/16/finer-points-of-nutrition-new-thoughts-on-ketosis/" target="_blank">Finer Points of Nutrition</a>, and it continues today. Hopefully I can keep things concise and to the point, unlike self-generated posts that turn into 8,000 word extended essays that seemingly try to debunk gravity =).</p>
<p>Reader Jeff <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/comment-page-1/#comment-5728" target="_blank">says</a>&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Either way, I personally thrive on natural carbohydrate.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;m pretty sure there isn&#8217;t a single human being on the planet that <em>thrives</em> off of carbohydrate instead of fat as their primary source of calories. Survive? Sure, couple billion people actually. But <strong><em>thriving</em></strong> and <strong><em>surviving</em> </strong>are two very different concepts.</p>
<p>For example, I could probably survive off of enough insects in a starvation situation, but <em>thrive</em>? Doubtfully. Eating two thousand and something calories a day of roaches and worms would be a horrendous task given my cultural and “culinary” history, assuming I could even find that amount to begin with, and wasn&#8217;t throwing up half the time in the process.</p>
<p><strong>Thriving</strong> on the other hand, is a different story. Like all humans, I thrive off of animals that preferably eat what they are meant to in the first place, and not what we shove down their throats and inject into them.</p>
<p>Why is this? Because humans are carnivorous by design, and omnivorous by necessity. When animals are not available, for whatever reason, we can <em>temporarily</em> <strong>survive</strong> off of plant based “foods”.</p>
<p>Again, preferably ones that do not play chemical and hormonal warfare with our bodies (in other words, plants that have been around for a very long time, and passing through our digestive tracks for a very long time, and have not been meddled with by modern technology to any significant degree).</p>
<p>Anyway, I think my point is clear.</p>
<p>As for an individual “thriving on natural carbohydrate”, I believe this could be more adequately labeled carbohydrate <em>addiction</em>.</p>
<p>This is not to single out Jeff, as this is (was) probably applicable to everyone reading this, myself included. From the day we are weaned off of human breast milk (assuming it was there to begin with), we are hooked onto a nutritional umbilical cord of carbohydrate.</p>
<p>From day one, the solid foods we eat are rich in the macro nutrient that was rarest in the human diet for <em>millions </em>of years. As a result, we become addicted. Our bodies learn to survive off this sub-optimal nutrient for energy, and we suffer as a result.</p>
<p>From obesity, to heart disease, diabetes … right down to our unnatural, ravenous, and frequent hunger for MORE carbohydrate, coupled with head aches and physical pain when we resist.</p>
<p>And the more we eat, the further we sharpen that sweet (or even not so sweet) tooth of carbohydrate addiction.</p>
<p>Day by day, month by month, year by year.</p>
<p><strong>More and more</strong> carbohydrate, in amounts that were never even <em>available</em> pre-agriculture, from sources packed with all sorts of toxins (fatty and otherwise).</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>In any case, that was a long and drawn out way of telling you Jeff, that you do not “thrive” on carbohydrate, “natural” or otherwise. No one does. It is an unnecessary nutrient, and no where near as efficient at fat, especially the saturated kind. Is it inherently evil? No, unavoidable in fact. But that doesn&#8217;t change all that was just said.</p>
<p>Jeff says&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>I have tried your preached &#8216;ketosis&#8217; and perform much more poorly in anaerobic-sport competition when in this process. I THRIVE on carbohydrate. I agree SOME benefit, from &#8216;ketosis&#8217;. Others like myself, perform much more consistenly on carbohydrate. It all depends on the person.</p></blockquote>
<p>“Your preached ketosis”?</p>
<p>Since when did <em>I </em>take ownership of this process and optimal adaptation? It was here long before I, or anyone else on the blogosphere was even born. I&#8217;m honored that you think I somehow invented or discovered ketosis, but I certainly did not.</p>
<p>As for performing poorly in “anaerobic” activity, I would bet my life that you were not keto-adapted. Adapting to produce ketone bodies and run primarily on fat for fuel takes at least a few weeks, if not longer, of limited carbohydrate consumption.</p>
<p>In the mean time, your brain is going to be starved for fuel as your body adapts to produce ketone bodies, which is made more troublesome by the commonly found SAD magnesium deficiency. Running around on a football field with “brain fog” and a possible head ache is not recommended during this interim period.</p>
<p>Your body is also learning how to run off of fat more efficiently in this multi-week process, in absence of the standard, yet abnormal consumption of vast quantities of carbohydrate, in all it&#8217;s forms. This is a pretty dramatic shift, and it takes time. Do not expect to go from Gatorade sugar/salt junkie to sweating butter in one days time.</p>
<p>As for any of this depending on the individual … perhaps to a small degree, but ultimately we all work and function as &#8220;healthy individuals&#8221;, relatively the same. Give it a fair shot. I promise it is well worth your time and effort.</p>
<blockquote><p>With that said, carbohydrates never caused Diabetes for ANYONE. Chemical sugars like high-fructose corn syrup and refined starches, did.</p></blockquote>
<p>If one lives off of nothing but oranges, watermelon, and apples, for a prolonged period of time, do you believe they will <em>not </em>end up with “diabetes”, or even dead? If so, you are sorely mistaken, and I would caution you to never try such an experiment. While I would agree that “sugar is not sugar”, and that things like agave nectar and high fructose corn syrup are especially bad “sugars”, any copious amount of carbohydrate is prone to causing problems in humans. The source is not as important as the amount, pure fructose aside. Carbohydrate from cane sugar and corn have the same effect on the human body, “natural” or otherwise. Eat 300 grams of the stuff every day like most Americans and you WILL have problems eventually (if not sooner from all of the other poison that will come along with that carbohydrate).</p>
<blockquote><p>This is obvious as carbohydrate have existed for millions of years while diabetes did not originate until ~2,000 years ago.</p></blockquote>
<p>I hate to be the one to point this out, but are you suggesting high fructose corn syrup was around ~2,000 years ago? Have to ask as that seems to be what you are implying with regards to your previous statement.</p>
<blockquote><p>Recently over the summer, my best-friend died.</p></blockquote>
<p>I too lost my best friend in the Summer of 2008. I am sorry to hear about your loss.</p>
<blockquote><p>I totally understand where you&#8217;re coming from as it took an emotional toll on me. On that note, you need to put your emotions aside as the aversion to carbohydrate you yield is absolutely rediculous. After all, why would these exist if they did not have a prolonged dietetic purpose?</p></blockquote>
<p>I eat carbohydrate all the time … in fact every day, as it is unavoidable in even meat and eggs. Even so, it&#8217;s frequent that I eat at least some direct source of carbohydrate, whether it be ketchup or some dark chocolate. Considering this, and my frequent statement that carbohydrate is not inherently “evil”, where&#8217;s the emotional aversion to carbohydrate present? I for one, am not seeing it.</p>
<p>As for your final statement in that paragraph, are you suggesting carbohydrate as a macro nutrient solely exists for human consumption? That&#8217;s what I take away from it, and I find it completely illogical.</p>
<blockquote><p>I also agree &#8216;animals&#8217; will always be a better-food choice. Point taken, this does NOT include feed lot animals! I&#8217;m talking wild-caught fish and game. If these cannot be caught, then plants make a legit supplement until real animal-meat can be obtained.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well if you&#8217;re into supplementing, why not take fish oil when only “feed lot” animals are available? You seem to agree animals “will always be a better food choice”, so why not keep it all animal? If you suggest there is more wrong with conventional meat than the fatty acid profile, I would have to agree, but I would not agree that plants will be a defacto better choice, nor would I agree that there is a lot more than speculation on what other dangers grain feeding presents, nutritionally speaking.</p>
<blockquote><p>As far as the debate on feed lot versus wild-caught animals, your argument is not even worth mentioning. A wild animal capable of surviving on it&#8217;s own is ALWAYS a better food-source compared to a dependently raised animal.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not debating “feed lot” animals versus wild caught animals, I&#8217;m comparing “wild caught” versus pastured fed and finished animals. There is a major difference there, as pasture fed animal products go through rigorous inspection before being shipped and sold (while still retaining a proper nutrient profile for our consumption). Wild boar on the other hand (for example), may have a great fatty acid profile, is also prone to a variety of parasites. I&#8217;ll pass on the tape worm dinner.</p>
<blockquote><p>And that bring us to the final topic. Saturated fats. And &#8216;dairy&#8217;&#8211; also known as cow sourced products.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not necessarily, as “dairy” can also come from Goats, Sheep, and other animals.</p>
<blockquote><p>You don&#8217;t support dairy yet you support &#8216;dairy fats&#8217;? Wow, talk about a contradiction!</p></blockquote>
<p>I would urge you to further explain yourself, as there is a massive difference between all encompassing “dairy” and “dairy fat”, which in most cases is over 95% animal fat. And as you said, animals are always the superior source of nutrients. It seems my friend, that you may be the one contradicting yourself.</p>
<blockquote><p>You are absolutely correct in stating that my point of milk being for baby cows is irrelevant. That is not what I was suggesting. The point I am making is I am no longer a baby and therefore do not drink milk. Milk is made for infants, regardless of species. PERIOD. Maybe you were not breast-fed enough, in younger years?</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, I was breast fed by my mother. To what age, I don&#8217;t know, but I will assume at least 1 year, if not two, based on my younger siblings experience&#8217;s that I witnessed as a child. As for your argument about milk only being for infants, this is the typical paleo argument. I would argue that while I am interested in eating like my ancestors, I am <em>more</em> interested in our modern understanding of metabolism, and as a result, re-creating the same dietary environment my ancestor&#8217;s enjoyed, with food substances available <strong>today</strong>.</p>
<p>That my friend, includes dairy <em>fat</em>.</p>
<blockquote><p>I respectfully suggest that you browse through Superior Nutrition by Shelton in order to gain more insight. One of the few print-books worth mentioning. In turn, I will check out the website you suggested.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of it. While skeptical based off the points you brought up in the above commentary, I will give it a look online, if possible.</p>
<blockquote><p>P.S. Everyone knows saturated fats have documented proof of being counter productive. Unless of course these fats are in the form of medium-chain tryglycerides.</p></blockquote>
<p>You lost me at “everyone knows”. I suggest in the future, during your own reading, that you be highly critical of ANYONE using such terminology, as “everyone knows” is often the equivalent of “nobody knows a damn thing save for the tiny minority shouting the truth like a crazed mad man”.</p>
<p>Jeff <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/16/finer-points-of-nutrition-new-thoughts-on-ketosis/comment-page-1/#comment-5758" target="_blank">says</a> in a new comment …</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;d like to clear-up and elaborate on the definition of &#8216;food&#8217;.</p>
<p>Food is any Plant or Animal in its wholesome, unaltered state.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh really? Because last I checked, if I ate a whole “unaltered” puffer fish, I&#8217;d be dead pretty quick. Same goes thousands of “whole and unaltered” wild plants. For the record though, the point of suggesting that people question what “food” is in the original <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/" target="_blank">Quest for Nutritional Truth</a> post was so they would would do just that, question this abused and overlooked term, not dogmatically follow some specific set of words I assigned to the term. If anything, people simply looking at what is presented to them and asking THEMSELVES “Is this really food?”, would really make my day.</p>
<blockquote><p>On that note, corn, wheat and soy are all classified as grains or legumes as Dream mentioned. What he failed to inform is these three Plants in their unaltered state are actually beneficial foods. Though not as high quality as vegetable-based starch or wild-animal, (see recent discussion) grains and legumes still provide a legit food source.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, they aren&#8217;t, in any way, shape or form. In fact I&#8217;m fairly certain all three are inedible “whole and unaltered”, and if you do manage to shove them down your throat “raw”, can cause very serious and immediate medical issues. Where are you even finding this information Jeff?</p>
<blockquote><p>The three aforementioned Plants are far from being the underlying issue causing nutritional deficiencies and diseases worldwide. The problem lies in the corrupt agricultural industry&#8217;s modern day processing. 99% of &#8216;foods&#8217; commercially available are NOT actually foods!</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, from my understanding, they are very directly <em>and</em> indirectly responsible for a host of problems world wide, including but not limited to nutritional problems in humans, that ultimately lead to an early and probably uncomfortable death.</p>
<blockquote><p>In whole form, corn, wheat, and soy are fairly nutritious as discussed previously. Unfortunately, the agricultural industry is logistically impaired and destroys the value of these foods on a daily-basis. Corn sugars, wheat breads and processed soybeans become engineered in labs and are NO LONGER what they once were. They have become imbalanced man made obstructions, which are ultimately counter-productive.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, they are crap to begin with. The fact that we can make them even worse is just a testament to the bad side of human nature and outright stupidity.</p>
<blockquote><p>It is near impossible to find wheat or soy that is still actually a food in recent times. That is why I understand where Dream&#8217;s misinformation is sourced. Even so, do not be confused by his implications as he was blindly referring to agriculturally altered VERSIONS of corn, wheat and soy.</p></blockquote>
<p>You do realize corn doesn&#8217;t even <em>exist</em> in the wild, right? Nor has it ever. What we know as “corn” is a product of human meddling, now, and in earlier times.</p>
<blockquote><p>Once again, food is any Plant or Animal in its wholesome, unaltered state. Grains and legumes such as corn, wheat and soy are all Plants and therefore foods.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve already addressed this, but it bears repeating. Your definition of food includes poisonous plants and animals. Even a lot of the things you suggest as food directly, are poisonous in their “whole and unaltered state”, grains especially. Hell, wheat is probably poisonous no matter what you do (carbohydrate aside).</p>
<blockquote><p>The critical problem with the American Food Supply lies in the hands of the FDA who are neglecting their regulatory responsibilities. Fortunately, Leaders such as those from my generation are stepping-up and providing awareness to make a lasting difference. It is only a matter of time until America is presented with wholesome, unaltered foods that truly deliver. In the meantime, utilize the dollar-vote! Create an impact.</p></blockquote>
<p>I suspect you believe the federal government is capable of fixing problems it itself created. If so, I would have to strongly disagree. <strong>Government has never been capable of fixing problems it itself perpetuates</strong>. When the problem is government, <strong>more of it is never the answer</strong>. The federal government has no role in food production and even safety. It doesn&#8217;t know how to do anything effectively, not even deliver mail. Leave it to the states or private corporations (that will fear massive lawsuits should they screw up on the issue of safety).</p>
<p>Agricultural subsidies should not exist.</p>
<p>Finally, reader Ben <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/16/finer-points-of-nutrition-new-thoughts-on-ketosis/comment-page-1/#comment-5749" target="_blank">says</a> …</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing more about ketosis. I&#8217;ve looked into it in the past and everything I read said that ketosis is bad. Your 36-day fast is intriguing, but anecdotal and without any scientific validity, to put it bluntly. Quite honestly, I don&#8217;t understand ketosis very well, and you definitely know more about nutrition than I, but to make a credible argument you need the scientific method.</p></blockquote>
<p>First off, thanks for the kind words that I didn&#8217;t bother to include in this commentary Ben (this post is getting too long as it is!).</p>
<p>As for ketosis, I am in no way the definitive and go-to guy on the subject. I would strongly suggest you visit <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/" target="_blank">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/</a> and search “ketosis”, or visit <a href="http://www.paleonu.com/" target="_blank">http://www.paleonu.com/</a> and do the same if you wish to read up on the subject (Mark for an introduction and Kurt for more in depth information).</p>
<p>You can also try visiting most anyone on their blog rolls, and searching for the same term. There are a million and one blogs that discuss the subject …</p>
<p>All that said, there is a plethora of information floating around about how terribly evil ketosis is. I would say to you that there is an <em>even greater</em> amount of information floating around the internet touting saturated fat as the anti-christ and cholesterol as Satan&#8217;s son.</p>
<p>Neither of which, are “bad” for you. In fact both nutrients are excellent for your health, not to mention <strong>necessary</strong> (which can&#8217;t be said for carbohydrate, “fiber”, and “anti-oxidants”).</p>
<p>Regarding the scientific validity of my previous statements about ketosis, I don&#8217;t believe I ever suggested the statements were scientific to begin with, nor have I ever claimed to be a scientist, “nutritionist” (all of which are essentially clueless), or medical doctor.</p>
<p>The next logical question to ask then is, does the way we eat need to be a scientific complex equation only a privileged few can understand and progress further?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think so. In fact, I think science has done nutrition a great injustice over the past few decades, and caused a few million deaths in the process. That of course was “bad” science, that is now being countered with “good” science, but never the less, it is science in both cases.</p>
<p>And unfortunately in the case of “good” science, it is an extremely up hill and entrenched battle. Idiots have a firm stranglehold on mainstream nutritional guidelines and food production for various reasons.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m getting way off topic. Point being, I am not a scientist, and don&#8217;t pretend to be. If you want to understand nutrition in that sense, you will have to look elsewhere. In the meantime, I&#8217;ll use logic, reason, common sense, and critical thinking skills to maneuver my way through mountains of misinformation in search of gems.</p>
<p>In the case of ketosis, one suggesting that it is dangerous in any way, shape, or form, might as well tell me I should hold my breath multiple times per day to “alleviate oxidative damage”. It really is that ridiculous now to me.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because being keto adapted is such a colossal advantage over being carbohydrate addicted, it&#8217;s not even funny.</p>
<p>The fact that people can go 36 hours (and longer) without food, and not experience physical pain, head aches, muscle cramps/aches, blurry vision, and other negative symptoms ― all the while engaging in rigorous physical activity ‒ is a testament to this simple truth.</p>
<p>Not to mention, carbohydrate simply isn&#8217;t available in the wild, in quantities that will keep large groups of people out of ketosis year round. There are exceptions to this rule (when tubers are plentiful in select locations for example), but ultimately this has been the rule for many thousands of years.</p>
<p>Wild vegetables are often inedible from my understanding, if you can even find them. Grains and beans hardly existed in our diets until some 10,000 years ago. Fruits? Not available year round, and when they were, they hardly resembled the “franken fruits” we have access to today – assuming you could even stomach them.</p>
<p>Nuts and seeds? Sure, they were around. Did they play a significant role in our diets? Doubt it. Gathering enough of them for a meal, and then extracting nutrients from them, was difficult and time consuming (lightly roasted in sea salt nuts were and are not &#8220;laying around&#8221; in the wild, unlike our local grocery stores). Their carbohydrate content isn&#8217;t especially high either.</p>
<p>Again, the human diet comes down to animals in an ideal situation. When they were sparse, plants sufficed, but were always secondary, and in many cases, probably temporary.</p>
<p>Regardless, living out in the wild made me realize that being keto-adapted has always been the natural state for human beings. Actually <em>in</em> ketosis? Not necessarily, but dipping in and out was easily the norm, if not there most of the year.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how anything else is possible on a grand scale (excluding sweet potato land). You HAD to be keto-adapted in ancient times. Or are we really supposed to believe it&#8217;s possible to chase down and kill a large animal with a blazing head ache, cramping muscles, and lacking the ability to think straight? That would have been the norm on a carbohydrate addicted diet since ancient man constantly faced starvation (and few seem to dispute the fact that starvation was our biggest threat).</p>
<p>Considering this, why should we suspect ketosis to be in any way dangerous? Being keto-adapted or even in ketosis was not only the norm throughout our evolution, but a dramatically beneficial adaptation in daily life. We could not have survived without it.</p>
<p>Again, I do not even believe it to be possible <em>not</em> to be keto-adapted, without the aid of modern agriculture and technology ‒ the same way it&#8217;s not possible to be a vegetarian without modern food production.</p>
<p><strong>How could an adaptation and state we would regularly (but not always) be in, without modern technology, be harmful to us? </strong></p>
<p>I find it absurd.</p>
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		<title>The Primal Blueprint is Aiming for #1 on the Best Seller List TODAY!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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Somehow when I wrote <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/08/09/an-in-depth-review-of-the-primal-blueprint-by-mark-sisson/" target="_blank">my review of TPB</a>, I weaved in some SEO magic and soon after it's release the review skyrocketed to number 1 on Google for "primal blueprint review".

Ever since, it's been one of the most popular posts on this site, search engine wise.

Whooopppeee right? Why am I posting about TPB again?

Well today is the day Mark is pushing this book to become number one on the Amazon best seller list.

For the record...
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	<li>This is the best print book I know of on Paleo/Primal nutrition</li>
	<li>Kurt Harris runs the best blog on Paleo/primal nutrition (I'm not comparing Mark's because it's about a lot more than nutrition)</li>
	<li>Doug McGuff has <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/12/doug-mcguff-what-to-eat-what-not-to-eat/" target="_blank">the best DVD</a> on the subject, period.</li>
</ul>
Anyway, I like to support the above 3 individuals and the work they do. I think their work is of critical importance for anyone eating a less than optimal diet, which is easily 99/100 people I run into on a daily basis, and 99/100 people you bump into as...]]></description>
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<p>Somehow when I wrote <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/08/09/an-in-depth-review-of-the-primal-blueprint-by-mark-sisson/" target="_blank">my review of TPB</a>, I weaved in some SEO magic and soon after it&#8217;s release the review skyrocketed to number 1 on Google for &#8220;primal blueprint review&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ever since, it&#8217;s been one of the most popular posts on this site, search engine wise.</p>
<p>Whooopppeee right? Why am I posting about TPB again?</p>
<p>Well today is the day Mark is pushing this book to become number one on the Amazon best seller list.</p>
<p>For the record&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>This is the best print book I know of on Paleo/Primal nutrition</li>
<li>Kurt Harris runs the best blog on Paleo/primal nutrition (I&#8217;m not comparing Mark&#8217;s because it&#8217;s about a lot more than nutrition)</li>
<li>Doug McGuff has <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/03/12/doug-mcguff-what-to-eat-what-not-to-eat/" target="_blank">the best DVD</a> on the subject, period.</li>
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<p>Anyway, I like to support the above 3 individuals and the work they do. I think their work is of critical importance for anyone eating a less than optimal diet, which is easily 99/100 people I run into on a daily basis, and 99/100 people you bump into as well.</p>
<p>We may think otherwise at times, since this blog, and other paleo supporting blogs have such a concentration of rational thinking and eating readers. Never the less, we are hardly a needle in a haystack. People are still dying around the world daily, from the way they eat, and suffering to lesser degrees as well from the diseases of civilization.</p>
<p>Things like obesity, heart disease, diabetes, cancer&#8230; hell even asthma in many cases.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a joke, all of these things are preventable, and I don&#8217;t take it lightly if I really sit and think about (I&#8217;m sure most of you don&#8217;t as well).</p>
<p>Back on point, if Mark&#8217;s book hits number one on the best seller list today, that would be one small step forward for the &#8220;paleo&#8221; movement in all it&#8217;s forms.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve been waiting to pick up the book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0982207700?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=thedrelou-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0982207700" target="_blank">grab it on Amazon today</a> for a ridiculously low price (that keeps changing). I paid a clean $25, so indeed, you are getting an awesome deal.</p>
<blockquote><p>Make sure you grab the print book and not the kindle edition if you are looking for the free bonuses (see below).</p></blockquote>
<p>Not only that, but to help skyrocket book sales Mark is offering a ton of free bonuses when buying today. Check them all out <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-amazon-1/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>Simply buy the book, and forward Mark&#8217;s people the receipt, and you are good to go. Better yet, if you are like me and purchased the book when it released (from whatever vendor), you can still forward them your receipt and get the free bonuses.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Best of luck Mark, and I look forward to your presentation this summer at The 21 Convention (Orlando).</p>
<p>Speaking of which, if you live locally, you can sign up to see Mark speak along with other exercise/nutrition &#8220;geeks&#8221; for a price lower than the full event access price. More details will be on the page soon, <a href="http://orlandofitness.eventbrite.com/" target="_blank">which is located here</a>.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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This is a comment I just posted on <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/" target="_blank">The Quest for Nutritional Truth: Why I Eat the Way I Eat</a>. I believe it is worth posting as a full blog article for new and fresh discussion (that old article has nearly 70 comments, far too many for my taste to continue commenting personally since not everyone will see the responses).

Jeff <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/comment-page-1/#comment-5715" target="_blank">says</a>...
<blockquote>Whatup, Dream! I’m glad to see others my age who are actually proactive about understanding nutrition ( :

On that note, you still have a lot to learn man. As do I. Nutrition is an art, just as complex as any other high-caliber art form.

As far as macronutrients go I thrive on carbohydrate as my main energy source. Natural starches including plantains, yams and squash dominate my diet. You should look into metabolic typing, to further increase your knowledge. We definitely ALL need proteins for tissue-repair. With that said, metabolism determines wether we thrive on carbohydrate OR fats as our main energy source. Not everyone thrives solely on...]]></description>
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<p>This is a comment I just posted on <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/" target="_blank">The Quest for Nutritional Truth: Why I Eat the Way I Eat</a>. I believe it is worth posting as a full blog article for new and fresh discussion (that old article has nearly 70 comments, far too many for my taste to continue commenting personally since not everyone will see the responses).</p>
<p>Jeff <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/comment-page-1/#comment-5715" target="_blank">says</a>&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Whatup, Dream! I’m glad to see others my age who are actually proactive about understanding nutrition ( :</p>
<p>On that note, you still have a lot to learn man. As do I. Nutrition is an art, just as complex as any other high-caliber art form.</p>
<p>As far as macronutrients go I thrive on carbohydrate as my main energy source. Natural starches including plantains, yams and squash dominate my diet. You should look into metabolic typing, to further increase your knowledge. We definitely ALL need proteins for tissue-repair. With that said, metabolism determines wether we thrive on carbohydrate OR fats as our main energy source. Not everyone thrives solely on fats!</p>
<p>As far as foods, I completely disagree with your view on animals as the ONLY source. I can tell you have definitely studied the lack luster paleo diet! For myself, I consume plants AND animals with plants as the staple. I do agree that animals make a great food source. In turn, I won’t touch the standard commercial animal-products as these are far from optimal choices. I would much prefer to hunt wild, natural game like elk or ostrich as my animal choices. One good elk should last for a month or two. Ideally as humans, we will get the most out of an animal who could actually eat us. Like a lion. I desire to consume a lion. After all, we are what we eat. Why not make it to the top of the food chain? Lion meat, would be bomb.</p>
<p>Dairy is not an ideal food choice. It is made by cows for their calves who are in the infantry stage. These calves are too young to find foods on their own, and therefore must drink their mother’s milk, straight from the source. As for humans, breast-milk is the far superior-choice as it is tailor-made for our species. Only I’m not going to drink that shit ha ha. It is VERY nutritious, though only necessary for infants.</p>
<p>So much to talk about, in this vast subject.</p>
<p>P.S. None the less, good article man. I like some of your points and insights.</p>
<p>JEFF</p></blockquote>
<p>I <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/comment-page-1/#comment-5725" target="_blank">say</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I agree we all must continue to learn and I’m glad you enjoyed the article.</p>
<p>Couple points</p>
<p>1. Metabolic typing has no basis in science or reality. I’ve looked at it, and I find it as valid as vegetarianism.</p>
<p>2. Carbohydrate is not inherently evil, but it is a inferior source of energy as compared to fat, especially saturated. Humans are meant to dip in and out of ketosis, or stay there the majority of their lives. I’ve lived in the wild and find it ridiculous to think otherwise.</p>
<p>3. Animals are not the only source of real food. I do not believe I stated this in the article. Animals are just always going to be superior to plants. Many “plants” we eat today are not “food” either, as discussed in the article.</p>
<p>4. “Wild” game is probably not as ideal as pasture raised animals. Wild game is prone to parasites and other problems. It’s certainly better than grain fed animals, but a romantic fantasy none the less. I would be interested in eating “lion”, but then again I suspect the texture may be horrible to humans.</p>
<p>5. “Dairy” is a very broad term. For the record, I don’t support “dairy”. I primarily support dairy <em>fat</em>, and the protein to a lesser extent. Some people can tolerate the carbohydrate from milk, but I do not believe it does anyone, any good, at all. You’re arguments against milk regarding it being made for baby cows is irrelevant, as their meat is not meant solely for our consumption either.</p>
<p>I suggest checking out <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.paleonu.com/">http://www.paleonu.com</a> for further info on what I’ve written above.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not in the most &#8220;vibrant&#8221; mood today. Not good, not bad, just sort of dull while my brain still processes what has happened over the past few weeks in my life. Due to this, I feel my comment came out a little more &#8220;raw&#8221; than I originally intended. In no way shape or form do I <em>not</em> like Jeff, I just sort of brain vomited into that comment without attempting to add any sort of tone to the text.</p>
<p>Such is the way of the internet =)</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;d like to make clear that plant &#8220;foods&#8221; that aren&#8217;t really food at all include all grains, especially corn, soy, and wheat &#8211; and nearly all legumes (beans).</p>
<p>You can chew and swallow these substances of course, but you can also eat Elmer&#8217;s Glue, Crayons, and cardboard boxes.</p>
<p>You can also cook, ferment, and soak these substances in all sorts of tasty ways, but you can do the same with cardboard. In fact I bet it taste quite good in a slow cooker with meat broth and vegetables. Mmm, cardboard (see above photo).</p>
<p>Finally, I spent quite some time in the North Georgia wilderness the other week. I intentionally went 36 hours on virtually no food, just water, and some tea. I felt great. I &#8220;knew&#8221; I was hungry of course, but in no way did I feel stressed about eating, or feel any pain/discomfort.</p>
<p>Considering this, I have come to the firm conclusion that humans are meant to be keto-adapted at all times. Not necessarily in ketosis, but keto-adapted never the less. Can ketosis be dangerous? I use to read articles that said so, simply because they contradicted my current views and forced me to challenge my own beliefs.</p>
<p>At this point I find it preposterous to think so, and believe anyone who has lived in the wild for a substantial amount of time would agree.</p>
<p>Not being a &#8220;fat burner&#8221; is a product of modern agriculture and civilization. Nothing else is even possible, unless you are the exception to the rule and living in sweet potato land.</p>
<p>The idea that ketosis is in any way dangerous to humans is now as valid to me as</p>
<ul>
<li>vegetarianism (for whatever purpose)</li>
<li> proper strength training/muscular hypertrophy being anything <em>but</em> beneficial to the human body (within our genetic limitations and without the use of synthetic drugs)</li>
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		<title>Doug McGuff: What to Eat, What Not to Eat</title>
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Excuse the webcam picture, I dropped my $200 digital camera in a stream last week while camping in the wilderness, and I don't feel like dropping another hundred plus dollars on a camera at the moment.

What you see above is "The Diet DVD" from Doug Mcguff, as it's been called.

I purchased it for my mother, and it arrived just before her birthday. It was $45 plus shipping and handling, so it wasn't cheap, but I was confident in Doug's ability to present complex information in a manner that was easy to absorb and understand by the lay person.

I finally sat down and watched the DVD with her yesterday, and, WOW (pun intended).

Doug's <a href="http://www.youtube.com/bodybyscience" target="_blank">online videos</a> are top notch, but this was a step above, and well worth the price tag.

If Mark Sisson authored <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/08/09/an-in-depth-review-of-the-primal-blueprint-by-mark-sisson/" target="_blank">the best print book</a> to date on paleolithic nutrition, and Kurt Harris run's <a href="http://www.paleonu.com/" target="_blank">the most informative</a> and in depth blog on the subject, <strong>Doug Mcguff just took the gold medal </strong>in...]]></description>
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<p>Excuse the webcam picture, I dropped my $200 digital camera in a stream last week while camping in the wilderness, and I don&#8217;t feel like dropping another hundred plus dollars on a camera at the moment.</p>
<p>What you see above is &#8220;The Diet DVD&#8221; from Doug Mcguff, as it&#8217;s been called.</p>
<p>I purchased it for my mother, and it arrived just before her birthday. It was $45 plus shipping and handling, so it wasn&#8217;t cheap, but I was confident in Doug&#8217;s ability to present complex information in a manner that was easy to absorb and understand by the lay person.</p>
<p>I finally sat down and watched the DVD with her yesterday, and, WOW (pun intended).</p>
<p>Doug&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/bodybyscience" target="_blank">online videos</a> are top notch, but this was a step above, and well worth the price tag.</p>
<p>If Mark Sisson authored <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/08/09/an-in-depth-review-of-the-primal-blueprint-by-mark-sisson/" target="_blank">the best print book</a> to date on paleolithic nutrition, and Kurt Harris run&#8217;s <a href="http://www.paleonu.com/" target="_blank">the most informative</a> and in depth blog on the subject, <strong>Doug Mcguff just took the gold medal </strong>in releasing a single comprehensive DVD on the subject.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m serious. This DVD is awesome, &#8220;know it all&#8221; about paleo style eating, or a total newbie to the idea, this very simple DVD rocks from start to finish.</p>
<p>Personally it was an <em>outstanding</em> refresh for <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2010/01/05/the-quest-for-nutritional-truth-why-i-eat-the-way-i-eat/" target="_blank">my own knowldge</a> in the field. For my mother, who was being introduced to the idea for the first time? Fascinating.</p>
<p>I think the fact that Doug is an MD and close to her in age helps a ton, but all superficial factors aside, Dr. Mcguff&#8217;s ability to relay and streamline complex information, in such a heated area as nutrition (and exercise, but not in this DVD), is incredible.</p>
<p>I know of no other DVD or video product that does what Doug did in this presentation. Beginning to end, it kicks ass, and I can not recommend it highly enough for your own personal learning curve, or as a gift to someone who is in need of such information &#8211; or has thus far not been interested or open minded to eating intelligently and rationally.</p>
<p>A+, and 5 stars from this random blogger.</p>
<p>Check out the <a href="http://conditioningresearch.blogspot.com/2010/02/dvd-review-ultimate-exercise-diet.html" target="_blank">full review on Conditioning Research</a> and order the DVD by calling <a href="http://www.ultimate-exercise.com/products.html" target="_blank">Ultimate Exercise</a>.</p>
<p>Lookin forward to Doug&#8217;s presentation this summer.</p>
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		<title>The Quest for Nutritional Truth: Why I Eat the Way I Eat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony 'Dream' Johnson</dc:creator>
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At this point, I've tried writing this post over half a dozen times. I've promised it for so long, I've decided to finally hammer it out, no matter the cost. I feel good though. My head is clear, and I've done enough writing lately that I feel I can organize my thoughts clearly, logically, and passionately.

Let's begin by analyzing why this post has been so hard to write for me.

In short, “nutrition” is an important topic to me. It's something I have been heavily interested in for many years now, have spent a lot of time (as in hundreds, if not thousands of hours) reading about, and had many different experiences as I tried nearly everything under the sun that caught my attention in the field.

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<p>At this point, I&#8217;ve tried writing this post over half a dozen times. I&#8217;ve promised it for so long, I&#8217;ve decided to finally hammer it out, no matter the cost. I feel good though. My head is clear, and I&#8217;ve done enough writing lately that I feel I can organize my thoughts clearly, logically, and passionately.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s begin by analyzing why this post has been so hard to write for me.</p>
<p>In short, “nutrition” is an important topic to me. It&#8217;s something I have been heavily interested in for many years now, have spent a lot of time (as in hundreds, if not thousands of hours) reading about, and had many different experiences as I tried nearly everything under the sun that caught my attention in the field.</p>
<p>We could summarize all that as, I&#8217;ve invested a lot personally into the subject – both intellectually, and in real life actions taken.</p>
<p>But, it doesn&#8217;t end there. The second reason it&#8217;s taken me so long to write this post, is that I understand just how deeply the way we eat permeates the rest of our lives.</p>
<p>And what&#8217;s more, I&#8217;ve seen dietary choices affect those I love most.</p>
<p>Many people scoff at the idea (including many Md&#8217;s) that nutrition can affect serious dis-eases, including cancer. Diet is a distant second behind conventional medicine and treatments, and often, even the severely abused term “exercise” is a step above dietary choices for health issues such as obesity and heart disease.</p>
<p>Paradoxically, it plays such a vital role in many cases, that it makes conventional medicine/treatment borderline irrelevant. Artificially meddling with &#8220;cholesterol levels&#8221; via statins being a prime example.</p>
<p>And in the case of my best friend, who died of cancer barely a year ago, the lack of proper nutrition literally caused his treatments to kill him, after transforming his once visibly health body, into something akin to a walking skeleton.</p>
<p>I actually watched him eat copious amounts of brownies, shark bites, various candies and other pastries, not two weeks before his death. He was literally <strong>ravenous</strong> for carbohydrate – carbohydrate that was feeding his ever faster spreading cancer – which baffled his doctors.</p>
<p>But why was this baffling? His doctors knew that there was a high chance of his cancer spreading and growing to other organs after “treatment”. You would think they would recommend removing the source of nutrients cancer would need to grow further and spread to other organs – nutrients that your body literally does not require for health.</p>
<p>It makes perfect sense, but of course, this was never mentioned to him, either due to ignorance or unwarranted skepticism to other medical doctors who have been shouting for far too long in a room full of sheeple.</p>
<p>Which brings us to our next point – can a 21 year old* possibly know more about the practical application of proper nutrition than thousands of medical doctors, the United States government, and state licensed dietitians?</p>
<p>The answer to this question will surprise some, and be completely obvious to others (I&#8217;m doubting there will be many people in between).</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<blockquote><p>*I&#8217;m willing to bet the majority of readers on this very blog know more than the mentioned &#8220;experts&#8221; and institutions &#8211; and not because they read <strong><em>this</em></strong> blog, but because they are constantly thinking for themselves and doing <strong><em>their own</em></strong> research on the critical issue of nutrition (among others I imagine).</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of who knows “more” either, as some may assume. Regarding real life application of eating properly, it is a black and white matter. Mass consensus from those in positions we view as having authority, is not “wrong” in a harmless or neutral sense – they are wrong on a level that is detrimental to your (and those who are close to you) immediate well being, life expectancy, functional ability, daily energy, and virtually any aspect of life you can even remotely link to the term “health”, and even on a societal level (think of the far reaching effects of childhood obesity and diabetes).</p>
<p>All the same applies to “exercise”. While I don&#8217;t claim to know everything, I can tell you that the consensus from those in positions of fame and authority is detrimental to all of the same points listed above. People like Arnold Schwarzenegger, <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/08/12/strength-training-superior-to-p90x-cardio-crossfit-functional-group-exercise-fitness-classes/" target="_blank">Tony Horton</a>, Christian Bale, Brad Pitt, and your family doctor, spout off information that is at best a waste of time, and more often than not, literally harmful to your body.</p>
<p>This is not to attack of those people personally, as I imagine they are all well intentioned (and truly believe in what they say). Never the less, the information they provide is essentially useless on the topic of exercise (and nutrition), and as the saying goes, &#8220;The road to hell is paved with good intentions&#8221;.</p>
<p>The knee-jerk response to this is often times a defense of those we look up to, likely due to a personal investment in the advice given by those celebrities/persons of status. Some may even say this is conspiracy nonsense.</p>
<p>To think that the US government does not have my personal health in their interests? And that “fit” and “cut” celebrities give advice that is not only useless, but harmful? And my doctor?</p>
<p>“Please, this guy must be nuts.”</p>
<p>The reality is that this is not a conspiracy, of course. It&#8217;s simply human psychology and errors in thinking/observation on a grand scale.</p>
<p>Celebrity A does X workout program for Y movie. Celebrity A looks “ripped” in Y movie, therefore his actions must be the direct source of his success.</p>
<p>Of course, this is not true. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_causation" target="_blank">Correlation does not equal causation</a>, and disregarding the infinite number of other variables during X workout program is simply <em>insane</em>.</p>
<p>In the case of doctors and licensed dietitians, the situation is more a matter of reading nutritional dogma for many years and never being exposed to an opinion that counters the accepted norm. Combine that with not wanting to risk one&#8217;s self financially by deviating from the prescribed norm, and you have self perpetuating sheeple thinking being distributed like candy on Halloween.</p>
<p>Some may still have a problem with listening to a 21 year old without a college degree over their doctor who has been through many years of schooling. To those people, I ask you not to listen to me, but to yourself. Think critically about the current state of affairs in the United States.</p>
<p>Our health and physical shape is literally falling apart (please visit your local Super Wal-Mart for visible examples).</p>
<p>Does the answer really lie in the information the masses present? Have we really just not listened to the (mystical) information that is presented with biased, shady, or no science at all to back it?</p>
<p>Is it wise to ignore our own contradictions regarding health, nutrition, and exercise?</p>
<blockquote><p>My favorite being that physical activity “works up an appetite”, yet “exercise” somehow makes you thin (random physical activity does not equate to “exercise”).</p></blockquote>
<p>My personal experiences, research, and applied logic, have resulted in a resounding NO to these questions. While specifics of “proper nutrition” may differ from opinion to opinion, I believe all individuals who strive to think rationally and are willing to deviate from the norm, will also come to the same conclusion – that most everything popular, is wrong.</p>
<p>In the case of our dietary choices (and exercise choices), everything popular is <em>really, really, wrong.</em></p>
<h1><span style="color: #33cccc;"><strong>What is “food”?</strong></span></h1>
<p>Relax, we&#8217;re getting to the good part =).</p>
<p>What is food I ask?</p>
<p>It seems to be a term few (if any) have tried to define, or even contemplated defining. Much like the terms “health”, “fitness”, and even “exercise”.</p>
<p>We all have our individual definitions of these terms, even if they are unconscious and never actively thought about (I will assume this is most people any of us have ever met).</p>
<p>The assumed definition most people have for “exercise” as an example, is any sort of random physical activity. By this definition, flicking on a light switch would be considered exercise. This sounds ridiculous of course, but I kid you not – this is where the unspoken logic behind this definition points.</p>
<p>Some may add that “anything that makes you sweat” should be considered exercise (I imagine someone like Tony Horton would say such a thing along with other fitness &#8220;gurus” and &#8220;celebrities&#8221;). Of course this logic would also include defecating in a moderately warm environment.</p>
<p>Of course, no one wants to discuss these unconscious assumptions and double standards for our collective logic on these concepts, but indeed, this is where they point.</p>
<p>All the same applies to the term “food”. I imagine most would be quick to define food as “anything that humans or animals eat”.</p>
<p>Yeah, this sounds pretty good&#8230;right?</p>
<p>Of course, this is also false. Your favorite book is not food for your dog, and Elmer&#8217;s glue is not food for children in pre-school.</p>
<p>“But of course not, it has to be something <em>nutritious</em>”</p>
<p>That little addition however, solves nothing. I imagine most people could eat some loose leaf paper or cardboard, and get by without any life threatening problems. And of course, there will be some “nutrients” in those items.</p>
<p>Most people will comprehend that that those items are not “food”, that I must be joking. However, I am not. Welcome to the world of processed foods, grain, corn, wheat, soybeans, the oils of these plants, and to a slightly lesser extent, the vast majority of legumes (beans).</p>
<p>I equate these things to cardboard (some processed foods may be excluded however as that is a bit of an over generalization, pemmican I purchased recently being an example).</p>
<p>In some cases tasty, and attractive looking cardboard – but the dietary equivalent of cardboard none the less. They literally have zero place in the human diet for every day purposes. Even in an extended survival situation, they are an extremely poor choice. You would be far better off eating bugs and small animals, as gross as it sounds (unless you happen to enjoy eating squirrels).</p>
<p><em>But don&#8217;t those “substances” provide nutrients?</em></p>
<p>No, not really.  Any minimal nutrition brought on by the ill-advised consumption of corn, soy, wheat, beans, and their oils, is heavily outweighed by it&#8217;s profound poisoning effect (that most are completely in the dark about) and spikes in insulin that are foreign to your body, or at best, should be exceedingly rare (and have been for a few million years now).</p>
<p><em>Okay, but hold on a second, grain and beans are the foundation of what most people on the planet currently eat. Are you suggesting that the basis of the human diet, including on a grand scale, should be something else, such as animals? If so, isn&#8217;t that harmful for the environment?</em></p>
<p>Yes, I am suggesting that the basis of our diets need to be animals. I must not care about the environment or animals then right?</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>I for one am convinced that not only is the consumption of animals better for us, but also the environment, and (paradoxically), even animals themselves.</p>
<p>This of course, sounds preposterous, especially to PETA fans and other vegans/vegetarians.</p>
<p>But I won&#8217;t stop there. I&#8217;ll go so far as to say that vegans and vegetarians are the biggest contributors to animal cruelty, and environmental damage, to have ever existed. Cruelly ironic and (I imagine) angering to most vegetarians?</p>
<p>Yes, but never the less, it is the truth. I don&#8217;t say the following lightly either.</p>
<p>The farming of corn, soy, and wheat, are <em>literally</em>, the seeds of our own doom. People worry about all sorts of nonsense for an impending apocalypse, but few ever stop to consider our addiction and dependence, as a species, on these fragile substances.</p>
<p>Imagine a world where 7 billion people were dependent on nutritionally devoid/poisonous substances for “food” (that are killing us off by the millions and quite literally <a id="aptureLink_oWPA1QceNB" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize#Origin">don&#8217;t belong</a> on the planet in the case of corn), that in the process of producing, cause horrendous damage to “the environment”, and each passing day, cause society to be ever more dependent on them.</p>
<p>Now imagine that world when a disease or severe weather crippled those “crops” (again, corn shouldn&#8217;t exist, so it&#8217;s difficult to cal it a crop).</p>
<p>In the undeveloped world, you would have millions of people go from hungry or already starving, to dead.</p>
<p>In the (over) developed world, you would have hundreds of millions of people on each continent experience food rationing/shortages of previous food stores, before outright civil unrest broke out (which would be pretty quick once news spread that it will be a very long time until significant quantities of “food” were produced*).</p>
<blockquote><p>*Combine this with the fact that most people become ravenously hungry after only a <em>few hours</em> due to their carbohydrate addiction/weak ability to produce ketone bodies.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is hard to imagine in the “developed” world, with all of our technology, communication, industry and so on – but I assure you those “crops” are the basis of the vast, vast majority of “food” currently available.</p>
<p>You would see the richest, most powerful countries in the world, disintegrate almost overnight. People would <em>kill</em> over food.</p>
<p>Think not? Look at every situation in recent history when things got “bad”. People will shoot each other over TV&#8217;s and electronics, <strong>let alone to feed their kids and family</strong><em><strong>.</strong></em></p>
<p>In fact, who said a valid reason was required for irrational behavior? <a href="../../../../../2009/11/18/witnessing-a-riot/" target="_blank">I&#8217;ve seen people first hand become violent and smash heads into curbs</a>, over nothing.</p>
<p>Now, this is a pretty dark picture we&#8217;ve painted, and the chances may be slim. But how slim is anyone&#8217;s guess. In any case, there is absolutely no telling what will happen in the years to come with our fragile beyond comprehension production of food.</p>
<blockquote><p>A bit of a tangent from the definition of “food”, but I feel that it is relative. If interested further, I recommend reading up on famines in the not so distant past (especially <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine#Ireland" target="_blank">Ireland</a>).</p></blockquote>
<p>Taking a few steps back, what about being vegetarian and not eating the previously discussed items?</p>
<p>Eating nothing but nuts, vegetables, fruits, some seeds, and so on. Wouldn&#8217;t that be the best course of action for people and animals (nutrition aside for the moment)?</p>
<p>Being a person who was “paleo-vegan” for a while, I can tell you the answer is most certainly no. This is a downright bastardization of the way we are meant to eat. These items are “foods” by my standards, but are a far cry from the versions we evolved eating. Modern agriculture has eliminated much of the little nutrients these foods once had.</p>
<p>Going further, in most cases, these items constituted a relatively small part of our diet. In some cases, they were even non-existent (Eskimos come to mind). In other cases, plant foods may have played a significant role in diet.</p>
<p>However, these are the exceptions, not the rules – the same way some plant foods are more suited to our dietary needs than others (coconut versus a watermelon for example, which is basically sugar water).</p>
<p>Perhaps the most clear cut reasoning that eating “paleo-vegan” (plants excluding grains and the majority of beans) is an unwise idea is that there is no such thing as a plant that is necessary to eat.</p>
<p>Of course the same could be said about animals, except that you <em>do</em> need to eat at least some animal products to survive and remain free of disease/deficiencies (removing modern technology/food processing from the picture).</p>
<p>Our bodies are literally engineered to need animals. Think about it, how could focusing on foods that are …</p>
<ul>
<li>not 	required</li>
<li>contain 	few nutrients (especially in the face of currently available plant 	products)</li>
<li>contain 	large amounts of the macro-nutrient that is unnecessary for 	consumption and for millions of years, on a grand scale, was the 	rarest to be consumed</li>
</ul>
<p>… possibly be healthy?</p>
<p>While nutrients vary from animal to animal (and have certainly been affected by the modern practice of corn/soy feeding), <em><strong>animals</strong></em><strong> were the only universal source of food available to the human race for millions of years</strong>.</p>
<p>An apple, an avocado, a watermelon, and starchy tuber are all <strong>very</strong> different foods.</p>
<p>Ask yourself (even with no formal knowledge of nutrition), <em>how different is the meat of a lamb from the meat of a steer</em>?</p>
<p>The meat and eggs of a chicken, and turkey?</p>
<p>A grouper, and snapper?</p>
<p>The differences are there, yes … but in comparison to a coconut and watermelon?</p>
<p>The difference is night and day. As a direct result, our bodies solely <strong>require</strong> the consumption of animals. Nothing else is even possible.</p>
<p>Considering this, is it really reasonable to assume that the only sustainable way to feed our population is by diametrically opposing what nature intended us to eat in the first place?</p>
<p>This to me, sounds preposterous, and arrogant, no matter the choice in plants (even removing grains/beans from the picture does not solve the problem).</p>
<p>But this is exactly what vegans/vegetarians would have you believe. I have even met “raw foodists” (who eat some meat) who think that plants are somehow the best decision on a grand scale for the planet, and that raising animals is destructive for the environment.</p>
<p>“They use way more water than plants!”</p>
<p>“Animals release “greenhouse” gases and will drown us all <em>Water World</em> style!”</p>
<p>These notions of course, are ridiculous. Mono-crop agriculture <strong>is many times more harmful</strong> than the sustainable raising of animals (without corn, soy, and all the related problems for the animal).</p>
<p>Anything to do with “global warming” and the fear mongering of the icecaps melting is blatant propaganda they have mentally sunk their teeth into, so much so they are now “fighting” for it.</p>
<p>“Fighting” for it so hard in fact, that they are contributing to whatever real world problems that cause purportedly hopes to solve.</p>
<p>The same concept applies to all fields actually – extremes become their inverses in due time – especially politics and government … but that is a discussion for another time.</p>
<p>The plus side to this little principle though is that once an individual becomes aware of it in one field, it spills over into other areas of interest. As I just mentioned, connecting the dots with nutrition and food production, spilled over to government and politics. The same can be said of exercise, and so on.</p>
<h1><span style="color: #33cccc;"><strong>Extended Q and A</strong></span></h1>
<p>As if there hasn&#8217;t been enough fictional questions and answers in this article already, I&#8217;m going to wrap it up with some more, in a more obvious fashion. It&#8217;s sort of stream of thought and not in any particular order, but if you do have a specific question, it should be answered in this section. If not feel free to comment, ask, and I&#8217;ll be happy to answer or point you in the right direction.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>So, all this theory … but what do I eat?!</em></span></p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple, mostly animals. Your specific goals/ambitions regarding dietary choices are irrelevant. The bulk of your diet should be animals. And by “bulk”, I mean as much as you want percentage wise – including 100.</p>
<p>There is absolutely no physical need for plants in your diet. Most of us can tolerate small or moderate amounts, some can&#8217;t. For anyone with any family history of serious disease*, including heart disease, diabetes (especially), various forms of cancer, and other “diseases of civilization”, I recommend eating little to none at all.</p>
<p>No one can conclusively prove either way if a little is more beneficial or not than none, but you&#8217;re best bet in this case is to only eat plants sparingly, as “condiments” as Kurt Harris has said.</p>
<blockquote><p>*In the case of any sort of stomach/digestive problem, including celiacs disease, “heartburn”, irritable bowel syndrome, chron&#8217;s disease, you should be eating nothing but animals, and as close to “zero” carbohydrate as is possible. In other words, if I had any of these problems, I would have to be bat shit crazy to continue to eat grains/beans, and would be turning a blind eye if I continued to eat any measurable amount of plant food. I do not suffer from these diseases, however.</p></blockquote>
<p>This sounds difficult, but it is not. In fact at this point, I feel that I have to go out of my way in my daily life to eat any plant foods (grain and beans are especially easy to avoid once you think of them as cardboard). It is literally a hassle and I have no desire to eat them.</p>
<p>In fact when I do eat any significant amount of vegetables/nuts/fruit, I quickly lose my appetite for them in favor of meat/animals. It&#8217;s a strange feeling to still be hungry but not want to put anymore of what you once considered “food” in your mouth.</p>
<p>I do like carrot cake though, and key lime pie, and chocolate chip cookies. These things make me feel like absolute crap though after eating them (now). And every time I consume them, I am reminded as such. And guess what? The interval between eating these “foods” grows bigger every time I do decide to have a bite.</p>
<p>What was once a one time per month habit, is now “a month or two”. Even that is a stretch – I think the last time I had key lime pie was August or September.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Anything more specific?</em></span></p>
<p>Yes. I wrote <a href="../../../../../2009/10/16/paleo-primal-meal-ideas/" target="_blank">this post</a>, and it includes pictures. I like lamb shank best. Steak is a close second. I like poultry as well, but it&#8217;s usually not fatty enough for me, and I end up adding additional fat such as pasture fed butter, coconut oil, and macadamia nut oil. The “dark” meat of birds is a bit moister, but still not up to par with “red meats”.</p>
<p>Eggs are great. I&#8217;m actually on the hunt for turkey eggs from a local farmer. Can&#8217;t wait.</p>
<p>I still have the shake on occasion in the post, but not as often. My taste for meat has grown, my taste for The Dream Shake has dwindled.</p>
<p>I like fish as well, usually the less fattier ones however. Salmon for example, is “ok”, but I&#8217;ll take a grouper, snapper, red fish, mahi mahi, or <a id="aptureLink_uChMqCC2v2" href="http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1980/112/108/5140013/n5140013_42194442_315.jpg">snook</a> fillet any day over salmon. I catch these myself more often than not however, and rarely buy fish from a store.</p>
<p>If you do, make sure it is wild caught, and preferably from somewhere around the US (and not from somewhere in Asia where “wild caught” may mean “wild” in a pen where the fish is fed corn, soy and other nonsense).</p>
<p>Grouper and Dolphin (mahi mahi) are plentiful around Florida from example, and to the furthest extent of my knowledge, are always “wild caught”, and never farm raised on grain/beans.</p>
<p>Some may be wondering about lobster/shrimp/crab various shellfish. I think these are fine, but probably not the wisest idea to make them the bulk of your diet. I don&#8217;t find them especially tasty however, so if you do, I recommend looking into the issue further yourself.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>What about dairy</em>?</span></p>
<p>A great article on “dairy” can be found <a href="http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2009/6/13/using-dairy-to-substitute-fats-for-carbohydrates.html" target="_blank">here</a>. My personal, short version, is that the fat is excellent when coming from a good pasture fed, pasteurized source. You can eat it “raw” too, but I don&#8217;t see the point. “Ultra pasteurized” is not as good. Still better than adding carbohydrate to your coffee, but regular pasteurized cream tastes light years better than “ultra”, and as far as I understand, is better for you.</p>
<p>I eat some cheese. I think it&#8217;s fine, and I don&#8217;t have any problems with it unless I eat a horrendous amount. If you do have any noticeable problems with cheese, don&#8217;t eat it.</p>
<p>Again, the fat is excellent though.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>But our ancestors didn&#8217;t eat dairy! Oh no!</em></span></p>
<p>If you think about it, they probably did on rare occasions. After all, why waste an animal mother&#8217;s milk if you&#8217;re starving?</p>
<p>But never the less, remove the carbohydrate and the rest of it just so happens to fit into the puzzle that is the human diet. Kind of like coconut (mostly the fat). Our entire race didn&#8217;t evolve eating coconut … it just so happens it&#8217;s nutrient makeup “works” for us, fairly well.</p>
<p>The same can be said for “milk”. It&#8217;s abundant, and has the added benefit of coming from an animal.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>You mentioned coffee … is that “okay”</em>?</span></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t prove so, but probably. There isn&#8217;t really anything “in” coffee. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, it adds a little flavor to my heavy cream, and has some caffeine in it. In short, the negative lime light surrounding “coffee”  is overblown. The real issue lies with all of the nonsense people pour into it, including soy, corn, copious amounts of carbohydrate, and frankenstein sweeteners.</p>
<p>Most people also avoid, at all costs, putting the one thing into their coffee that has any real nutritional value – heavy cream.</p>
<p>I also add vanilla bean powder to it sometimes. It&#8217;s expensive, but good, and goes well with the other condiment in the drink (the other condiment being coffee).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s much better than Vanilla extract too, since it has no alcohol in it (I find the alcohol to ruin the taste of my coffee).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>What about things like eggnog and ice cream?</em></span></p>
<p>You can actually make these without anything horrible in them. I made egg nog myself not long ago, including water, heavy cream, eggs, cinnamon, nutmeg, and vanilla powder. Tasted pretty good, but I could definitely use some practice with the process =).</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t made ice cream, but the same applies – just add whatever flavor you want to it and “roll” with it (assuming you already know how to make ice cream). I&#8217;ve read that adding whey helps with the consistency, however.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>What else should I be drinking</em>?</span></p>
<p>Water, water, and uh … water.</p>
<p>Carbonated drinks are completely out, as are “sports” drinks packed with mind boggling amounts of sugar (actually a poisonous derivative of corn in most cases). Coffee is cool, just make sure it&#8217;s actually “coffee” and not something else packed with all sorts of trash.</p>
<p>Tea is fine too, I just hate the taste.</p>
<p>Fruit juice is just sugar and water (as are fruits, basically). Lemons and limes are fine to add to water at restaurants though, if you like the taste.</p>
<p>Regarding the quality of water, most bottled water sucks, and so does your tap. I recommend <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/10/10/life-saver-water-bottle-review/" target="_blank">buying the best</a> water bottle on the planet. I use it religiously. The water is filtered to hell and back, and tastes great. I put the water through a Brita or reverse osmosis filter as well before using the bottle, on most occasions (but not always).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not cheap, but it&#8217;s not really expensive either. One purchase and it will last for years … (months for the carbon filter though, which improves taste and further filters the water).</p>
<p>Regarding the consumption of alcohol, it&#8217;s poison. I have never drank as an adult, so I nearly forgot to mention this, but stay away from it as often as possible, or completely.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Let&#8217;s step back for a second, I need to get this straight – I can live fine, my entire life, without ANY carbohydrate?</em></span></p>
<p>Yes. You&#8217;re body “needs it”, but does not need to consume it, if that makes any sense (it makes it&#8217;s own). Read about if further <a href="http://www.paleonu.com/panu-weblog/2009/8/28/carbohydrates-no-dietary-requirement-but-metabolically-criti.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>There are essential fatty acids, amino acids, vitamins, and minerals, but no necessary (dietary) carbohydrates (or anything they happen to contain). Anyone telling you different is either misinformed,  lying to you, or a combination of the two.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>But what about FIBER?! Don&#8217;t I need it?</em></span></p>
<p>Oh god, <em>hellllll</em> no you don&#8217;t. This myth is so bogus I hardly know what to say on the matter. <a href="http://www.carnivorehealth.com/main/2009/4/17/screw-you-fiber.html" target="_blank">This post</a> by Danny Roddy covers “fiber” quite well however.</p>
<p>As an interesting side note (this is gonna be blunt so you may want to skip to the next question), most of what people crap out, is plant fiber and other nonsense they decided to put into their mouths. I kid you not, like 90% of it.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll be shocked at how little you defecate eating nothing but animals. Now think about all the nutrients you get from food <em>your body actually absorbs</em> … instead of craps out.</p>
<p>Poop for thought eh?</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.thedreamlounge.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>What about “anti-oxidants”, don&#8217;t I “need” those?</em></span></p>
<p>No, you do not need them. Can foods packed with them be beneficial? Maybe, maybe not. I really don&#8217;t have the answer. I find berries, nuts, and extremely dark chocolate more tolerable than other plant foods though (especially when I cover them in a ridiculous  amount of heavy cream). I never focus on eating “anti-oxidants” though. Doing so would result in a lot of carbohydrate – no thank you.</p>
<p>Also, keep in mind there is a lot of dogma surrounding “anti-oxidants”, so tread carefully if you&#8217;re going to suggest to a friend that all those “anti-oxidants” he/she is gorging on, isn&#8217;t really doing much of anything.</p>
<p>I suspect this will be a point of contention for many paleo fans actually as &#8220;anti oxidants&#8221; are one of the few points of conventional wisdom that fit into &#8220;paleo&#8221; eating (as rushing between exercises fulfills <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/11/15/the-down-low-on-cardio-and-latest-thoughts/" target="_blank">&#8220;cardio&#8221; dogma</a>).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Taking quite a few steps back, is eating animals really better for the environment than eating plants, especially grains/beans?</em></span></p>
<p>Yep. Vegetarians will fight you to the death on this one. There is probably a little room for debate when both agree that the farming of corn, soy, and wheat is one of the most destructive practices to ever take place in history for the planet, though.</p>
<p>Regardless, anyone telling you that “plants” are better than “animals” for the environment, is totally clueless on the issue (see <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/vegetarian-myth-review/" target="_blank">here</a> for more info).</p>
<p>Shifting our food production from mono-crop agriculture to the sustainable raising of animals is probably not the easiest task to accomplish, and will cause a lot of friction – but the dark alternative outlined earlier is far worse, and a very real possibility on our current track.</p>
<p>The benefits are high too, if we have the collective balls to pull it off. The best way to do this?</p>
<p>Vote with your money, and your dietary choices.</p>
<p>Buy meat that is raised without grain/beans, and instead, eats the food it was meant to*. It&#8217;s better for the animals, and better for you come dinner time.</p>
<blockquote><p>*Livestock, like humans, get sick eating grain and beans. What a surprise. Feeding animals corn and soy also messes up the nutritional content of the meat/eggs you end up consuming.</p></blockquote>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>What about “organic” foods? Should I be buying them?</em></span></p>
<p>The real issue with animal foods lies in the food <em>they eat</em>. First and foremost, search for animals foods that are NOT fed corn, soy, and other nonsense. These animals are usually treated well, and are not subject to growth hormone and anti-biotics (because they aren&#8217;t getting sick in the first place, what a novel concept right?).</p>
<p>The farmer just isn&#8217;t paying for the “organic” certification, which is expensive for him, and kind of screws him in the ass.</p>
<p>All that said, treat “organic” as a distant second. In the case of heavy cream for example, at least the animal will have not been subject to anti-biotics and growth hormone. The nutrients in the cream wont be “perfect”, but close enough.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>I have some form of diabetes, will eating mostly (or all) animal food cure/help me?</em></span></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Carbohydrate is by far the biggest stimulator of insulin. Remove it from the diet long term, and most diabetics will cease to have <em>any</em> health problems.</p>
<p>It really is that simple despite what mainstream medicine and media would like us to believe.</p>
<p>However, insulin is still required by the body for various purposes (including the digestion of protein). If your body completely and permanently lacks the ability to secrete insulin, removing carbohydrate from the diet is still your best bet, but it&#8217;s highly unlikely to “cure” you completely. You still need insulin, it&#8217;s unavoidable.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>I want to build muscle and/or lose fat, is eating this way ideal to do so?</em></span></p>
<p>As I stated previously, individual goals/ambitions regarding dietary choices are irrelevant (on a foundational level). Eating mostly, or just animals, is the basis of a “proper” diet. Nothing else even comes close to making sense.</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;re doing that, <em>then</em> it&#8217;s time to tinker with macro nutrient ratios (which should always be at least 50% fat, mostly saturated), calorie intake, fasting, and so on.</p>
<p>Build the base, go from there.</p>
<p>And while this warrants a separate discussion, I will add that from my experience, building muscle is more a matter of calorie intake, than macro-nutrient ratio (assuming carbohydrate is minimal or entirely eliminated).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Is this diet optimal for “health” and longevity?</em></span></p>
<p>For health, absolutely. For fat loss, absolutely. For building muscle, absolutely. For longevity … it&#8217;s hard to prove either way.</p>
<p>My guess is yes, and I&#8217;ll let you know for sure in the after life.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.carnivorehealth.com/main/2009/6/1/the-china-study.html" target="_blank">The China Study</a> says different of course, but then again that&#8217;s probably one of the worst books I&#8217;ve ever had the unfortunate chance to lay eyes upon. It&#8217;s about as valid as studies done that conclude “running preserves joint health”. Studies done by looking at “life long runners”, and ignoring the infinitely large graveyard of people who dropped out 10, 20, 30, and 40 years earlier due to bone/joint and other health problems.</p>
<p>Going further, I find it folly to think that we <em>can&#8217;t</em> have our cake and eat it too. This is a scarcity mentality that permeates most areas of life, that I can have one thing, and <em>not</em> another (with the inverse being true, such as with obese people performing “cardio” while continuing to eat junk).</p>
<p>My experience has repeatedly been that if I use my brain and think critically about a subject, that there is a way to have the best of both worlds. To think that one diet supports  health now, and not longevity … just seems asinine to me. Or that one diet supports muscle growth, and not overall health.</p>
<p>These things are interrelated, in my opinion, period.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>What about all that saturated fat and cholesterol, isn&#8217;t it going to “clog my arteries” and kill me?</em></span></p>
<p>Nope.</p>
<p>The idea that you can eat something that will directly end up in you&#8217;re heart is laughable and has no scientific foundation as far as I am aware. This is a serious myth that has permeated every corner of western society though, and a very destructive one at that.</p>
<p>If you want the “criminal” responsible for 99% of heart attacks over the last 50 years, look no further than the shunning of saturated fat and cholesterol, and their replacement with corn/soy and other grain/bean oils.</p>
<p>This notion has literally <strong>killed </strong>tens of millions of people, perhaps even more if you connect it to issues outside of heart disease (of which, it certainly plays a role).</p>
<p>It really sucks, and I encourage everyone to lead by example for their friends and family by never shying away from eating foods rich in animal fat and cholesterol. Most people will initially scoff at the breaking from a societal norm, but many in a long enough time span will become curious, and ask questions about your choice (and this is a far better option than forcing this kind of information down someone&#8217;s throat).</p>
<p>For a good primer on saturated fat, check <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/saturated-fat-healthy/" target="_blank">this article</a> out by Mark Sisson, or read <a href="../../../../../2009/08/09/an-in-depth-review-of-the-primal-blueprint-by-mark-sisson/" target="_blank">The Primal Blueprint </a>(a print book).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Have any thoughts on nutrition as it relates to working out?</em></span></p>
<p>Yep, <a href="../../../../../2009/11/30/pre-during-and-post-workout-nutrition/" target="_blank">check it out</a>.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>How often should I eat? I&#8217;ve heard eating frequently is “good”.</em></span></p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably splitting hairs once carbohydrate is drastically reduced or eliminated from your diet, but ideally not very often. It just doesn&#8217;t make sense to do so from an evolutionary standpoint, and after a few weeks of eating little or no carbohydrate, your body “keto-adapts”, and you cease to be frequently hungry (which now seems like a distant, and alien memory).</p>
<p>Unless the meals I were eating were exceedingly small, I don&#8217;t even think I could eat more than 2 or 3 times per day, and I&#8217;m a known to eat a lot.</p>
<p>Even more than 2 times a day seems like a bit of a hassle (small snack of pemmican or cheese aside).</p>
<p>I wake up, eat a lot of heavy cream. Later in the day, I eat meat, or eggs. Case closed. In between I am only hungry if I skimped on the cream, even then, “hungry” is a unique term once a person is keto-adapted. It becomes more of a mental itch than physical pain (as is common on a “high carbohydrate diet”, which is sort of an oxymoron now that I think about it).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>Cooking, any tips? What about “raw food” and the “raw food movement”?</em></span></p>
<p>Yes, don&#8217;t under cook your food, and don&#8217;t overcook it (unless you are intentionally going to eat something raw, such as fish or egg yolks), simply cook it to your taste preference (it doesn&#8217;t matter once it&#8217;s safe to eat and as long as it&#8217;s not burnt to hell).</p>
<p>Egg yolks are the one exception I know of. As far as I can tell, they are best eaten raw, or close to it. Egg whites must always be cooked however.</p>
<p>Meats can be eaten raw (fish is common), but it&#8217;s not entirely safe. At least sear the outside.</p>
<p>Dairy may also be best raw, although I&#8217;m doubting it. “Raw” simply doesn&#8217;t mean much once the food gets nuked by your stomach acid. Avoid ultra-pasteurized dairy products if possible though – that&#8217;s  additional “nuking” before your stomach gets to it. No thank you.</p>
<p>So what about the “raw food movement” you ask?</p>
<p>Well, for starters, I have friends that are passionate supporters of it.</p>
<p>Sympathy for their feelings aside, my personal, <em>humble</em> opinion?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only trumped in the “nonsense and self serving propaganda arena” by the idea that humans are naturally vegetarians.</p>
<p>The “raw food movement” is as completely and utterly false as it can get. If <em>Kenneth Cooper&#8217;s</em> “aerobics” became the modern faux cardio movement, hippy veganism (that kills more animals than it saves) became the raw food movement.</p>
<p>Same shit, new packaging to serve a hidden moral agenda (that perpetuates exactly what it set out to “solve”).</p>
<p>Humans literally evolved, due to cooking. <em>You can&#8217;t even live in the wild, without cooking</em>. It is physically impossible, to get enough calories, from raw food (as a human), without modern food processing and agriculture.</p>
<p>The amount of calories available from raw plant food, and even animal food (egg yolks aside), in the wild, is nothing short of laughable. Man quickly starves in the wild without cooking.</p>
<p>To assume that this food, that would kill you without modern technology, is somehow better for you? Ridiculous to a level that defies description.</p>
<p>It sounds nice on paper of course, “eat live foods if you want to feel alive!”. (Tony Robbins has actually used such logic in his older nutritional seminars). But it is utterly false, dangerously romanticizes our past, and completely disregards how our entire digestive system works.</p>
<p>I actually worry for one of my raw-foodist friends. Not him directly though – he&#8217;ll probably wise up before any serious damage is done – but for his new wife, and unborn child (should they end up having children, which I believe they are).</p>
<p>It is a dietary choice that is dangerously low in calories (even with modern food processing), and even lower in essential nutrients – unless you can somehow gorge on raw meat without getting sick (even then, it&#8217;s a poor idea).</p>
<p>To grow a child in a mother&#8217;s womb, on this type of dietary plan? Scary to even think about, not to mention having the child grow up on such a diet.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you&#8217;re interested in learning more about cooked and raw food, there is no better book than <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465013627?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=thedrelou-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0465013627" target="_blank"><em>Catching Fire: How Cooking Made us Human</em></a>, which actually delves into more than the chemistry component of cooking and it&#8217;s effects on human evolution.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a lot less abrasive than I am, so don&#8217;t let my arrogance about the subject make you shun the book if you currently eat mostly or all raw foods =).</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>How does nutrition factor in with current &#8220;health care reform&#8221; in the US?</em></span></p>
<p>It causes any and all &#8220;debate&#8221; for it, to be 100% void and invalid.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>The reason is simple &#8211; over 75% of our current costs in &#8220;health care&#8221;, are a direct result of our dietary choices. We know these costs as the &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseases_of_civilization" target="_blank">disease of civilization</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s repeat that statement so it is abundantly clear. The majority of current costs for &#8220;health care&#8221;, are the <strong>direct</strong> result of individual dietary choices (and other conventional wisdom). In other words, individuals are at fault. Knowingly or unaware is irrelevant, since I refuse to pay for another individuals poor choices that were well within his or her&#8217;s control.</p>
<p><em>Carr accident? A broken leg from playing a sport? Random event that no one could have anticipated?</em></p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s probably not a bad idea to attempt to come together as a society and make these kind of unforseen events less of an issue (possibly, but not necessarily through government).</p>
<p>Force people who have thought for themselves and worked hard for what wealth they have produced, to pay, <em>for someone elses **ck up that is 100% their fault?</em></p>
<p>That&#8217;s outright insane. There is no argument for health care reform &#8211; it ends with the fact that currently some 3/4 of our health care costs are the direct result of poor dietary choices. If this was not so, then there would legitimate discussion.</p>
<p>At the moment, this is a bunch of scum bags trying to steal from the minority and slapping a bunch of propaganda on it to get support from the masses.</p>
<p>I for one, will have nothing to do with directly paying for someone elses mistakes, no matter the cost.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>What about pets, what should they be eating?</em></span></p>
<p>It depends on the animal. A hamster should not be eating the same food as your dog for example &#8230; Never the less, dogs and cats (which I assume this type of question would be about), are 100% carnivorous. You could say we are as well, except we can <em>tolerate</em> being omnivorous to the extent that it is required to survive.</p>
<p>Regardless, your dog/cat <em>should</em> be eating nothing but meat. It&#8217;s ludicrous to think otherwise, and anyone telling you differently, is either trying to sell you something, or grossly misinformed.</p>
<p>If you feed them common dog and cat &#8220;food&#8221;, they will inevitably become sick (and fat), because it&#8217;s not meat and probably contains tons of corn and soy. I&#8217;ve watched my families dog/cats become sick, and my room mates cat as well (bladder infections). These events are costly, and annoying when they pee blood on your sheets.</p>
<p>Do your pet, and yourself a favor, and feed them cheap meat.</p>
<p>Read more about cats <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/natural-cat-diet/" target="_blank">here</a> and dogs <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-primal-diet-for-dogs/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>You&#8217;ve done a lot of crazy and wild stuff Anthony, are you sure this isn&#8217;t another fad diet?</em></span></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been through a lot of different “diets” over the years, and this is perhaps the most valid skepticism if there ever was one. However, I encourage people to view this in a positive instead of negative light.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve basically gone through all of the <em>bull $#!+</em>, so you don&#8217;t have to. Any area of importance has this same path to mastery, whether it be success with women, exercise, career, and so on. Nutrition is no exception, unless you happen to stumble onto something valid early on, by random chance.</p>
<p>I certainly did not. I got sucked into a lot of nonsense by well intentioned individuals. I hold no grudges, but wish it upon no one. Do your own research and see if you come to my conclusions, but save yourself a lot of time by not having to try out everything under the sun, and move on to your next topic of interest.</p>
<p>In addition to all of this, my path with nutrition followed has had a “paleo” theme for some time, which is certainly in the right direction, and a major source of reason for much of what was written in this post.</p>
<p>My dietary choices basically went as follows.</p>
<ul>
<li>Standard American Diet (SAD)</li>
<li>Vegetarian</li>
<li>Vegan</li>
<li>Tinkered with Alkaline/Raw Veganism</li>
<li>Paleo Vegan (no more grains and beans)</li>
<li>Paleo/Octo Vegetarian (vegan plus eggs and fish)</li>
<li>Mostly paleo vegetarian with eggs, some grass fed meat</li>
<li>More eggs, slightly more meat, slightly less plants</li>
<li>Lots of eggs, some meat, even less plants</li>
<li>Mostly eggs, meat, nuts, little plants</li>
<li>Mostly eggs, meat, dairy (continuing on the less plants theme)</li>
<li>Mostly meat, some eggs, and dairy fat (very little plants)</li>
</ul>
<p>Which is where I&#8217;m at now. Most days of the week, I eat no plants (excluding coffee). I just eat heavy cream, and meat. Sometimes cheese, sometimes eggs (eggs are awesome for the record).</p>
<p>I feel I was pretty fortunate to have turned out where I did though. A lot of people, many friends included, get sucked into one dogma, and stop their search for truth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never experienced the success I have with the way I have chosen to eat for the past few months. I constantly feel good, never bloated, never gassy, plenty of energy, skin is healthy, hair is healthy, teeth are healthy, I&#8217;m lean, and stronger than I have ever been, by a long shot.</p>
<p>There is definitely more to be learned, but really, continuing on the trend outlined above, how many options are there?</p>
<p>Of the options available (say, eliminating dairy completely), how much of an option is that, really? Eliminating a source of animal fat and replacing it with another?</p>
<p>Wow, what a fundamental shift in diet! =)</p>
<p>Anyway, as far as I can tell, I&#8217;ve hit the sweet spot. I&#8217;m always open to new ideas, and ideas that contradict those presented today … but then again, I can&#8217;t recall ever reading something that seemed even remotely legitimate as a counter argument to any of the major themes in this article.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve believed otherwise at times of course, but after years gone by, and from a birds eye view, nope.</p>
<p>…</p>
<p>Have questions, comments, or concerns? I&#8217;m an open book. Let&#8217;s boogy.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the re-posting of a recent discussion on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/beachmuscles" target="_blank">my facebook</a>, I thought it would prove interesting.

In response to my post about <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/11/30/pre-during-and-post-workout-nutrition/" target="_blank">pre, during, and post workout nutrition</a>, a close friend wrote
<blockquote>just to give a counterpoint

consider why men go to the gym today. Most go to increase muscle size/health/sexual attractiveness. IMO they are not concerned with doing it the "most" healthy way, but rather gaining results in the quickest and most efficient way.</blockquote>
<strong>My response:</strong>

"Health" and increased muscle mass are always intertwined. Thinking you can only have one and not the other is erroneous at it's core. The same goes for best results and best use of time - <em>best</em> results require very little time.
<blockquote>I understand that with your beliefs, this is not the healthiest way about it. but you cannot deny that working out the way most people do is still better then sitting on the couch and eating potato chips. therefore, effectively, they are living a healthier lifestyle.</blockquote>
<strong>My response: </strong>

Yes I can, watch me =)

"Exercise" (random physical activity) the way most...]]></description>
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<p>This is the re-posting of a recent discussion on <a href="http://www.facebook.com/beachmuscles" target="_blank">my facebook</a>, I thought it would prove interesting.</p>
<p>In response to my post about <a href="http://www.thedreamlounge.net/2009/11/30/pre-during-and-post-workout-nutrition/" target="_blank">pre, during, and post workout nutrition</a>, a close friend wrote</p>
<blockquote><p>just to give a counterpoint</p>
<p>consider why men go to the gym today. Most go to increase muscle size/health/sexual attractiveness. IMO they are not concerned with doing it the &#8220;most&#8221; healthy way, but rather gaining results in the quickest and most efficient way.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>My response:</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;Health&#8221; and increased muscle mass are always intertwined. Thinking you can only have one and not the other is erroneous at it&#8217;s core. The same goes for best results and best use of time &#8211; <em>best</em> results require very little time.</p>
<blockquote><p>I understand that with your beliefs, this is not the healthiest way about it. but you cannot deny that working out the way most people do is still better then sitting on the couch and eating potato chips. therefore, effectively, they are living a healthier lifestyle.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>My response: </strong></p>
<p>Yes I can, watch me =)</p>
<p>&#8220;Exercise&#8221; (random physical activity) the way most people perform it, is quite damaging, and serves no real physiological (beneficial) purpose.</p>
<p>see here for further info</p>
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you are a perfect example of this. even though there is no proof that you are extremely healthy, I also can&#8217;t say that you are not healthy. but by the standards set forth by todays society, considering how many YEARS you have worked out, you are not near the muscle size of your peers that are doing things the &#8220;modern&#8221; way.</span></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not denying you your results, however, considering your cost/result ratio, you are not nearly to being the most efficient way of going about living a healthy lifestyle. People need a lot of dedication and devotion to go about doing things the way you feel they need to be done. looking at history, other then a few exceptional human beings, people will not go out of their way to achieve something&#8230; not usually unless it&#8217;s something clear within their reach.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>My response:</strong></p>
<p>Not following. My cost is low and results are high &#8211; where is the flaw? How much dedication is required to work out once a week, or less? Eating is a different story, but not so different as to be &#8220;in it&#8217;s own ball field&#8221;. Simple changes are all that is required &#8211; some may view them as extreme, but that is a perspective, not inherent to the changes (eliminating grains and beans for example).</p>
<p><strong>Adding fuel to the fire</strong></p>
<p>These were quick responses I made on Facebook and have not been edited other than a quick capitalization here and the addition of italics there.</p>
<p>To go further</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="display: inline;">even though there is no proof that you are extremely healthy, I also can&#8217;t say that you are not healthy.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>The flaw in thinking is &#8220;extremely healthy&#8221; here. Healthy is one of those vaguely defined words &#8211; like exercise &#8211; that most people have individual visions of. <em>My</em> definition of &#8220;healthy&#8221; (off the top of my head) is a lack of disease, a high level of skeletal muscle mass in relation to my genetic potential and age, a strong immune system, and a lack of habits that promote future problems (eating grain, &#8220;cardio&#8221;, etc).</p>
<p>Furthermore, &#8220;extremley healthy&#8221; supports the idea of <em>super health, </em>which despite what the latest raw food revolution fanatic says, does not exist. Our bodies are meant to function a certain way, and all we can do is allow them to operate in that fashion. We do this by eating &#8220;properly&#8221;, and exercise intelligently (consciously/rationally).</p>
<p>&#8220;Enhancing&#8221; your health above it&#8217;s set base line is pure non sense (with the minor exception of additional muscle mass).</p>
<blockquote><p>considering how many YEARS you have worked out, you are not near the muscle size of your peers that are doing things the &#8220;modern&#8221; way.</p></blockquote>
<p>Comparing yourself to others (in nearly any field, not just exercise), is largely useless, and at times counter productive. When it comes to my own progress (in anything), I look first and foremost to myself, my own standards, and my own goals. With exercise genetic potential also comes into play, and some people are simply above the norm and would be &#8220;jacked&#8221; or &#8220;ripped&#8221; no matter what they did for &#8220;exercise&#8221;.</p>
<p>My results are not only real, but are a direct result of my actions. 19 pounds of muscle in 11 months may not be much for some people, but far exceeds my own expectations &#8211; and considering my age (21), probably puts me at least somewhere close to my &#8220;current&#8221; potential, unlike many of the gym fanatics we see running around large gyms 5-7 days a week with results likely not near their potential (even if their &#8220;results&#8221; appear to be far more &#8220;advanced&#8221; than my own).</p>
<p>To put the icing on the cake, the way I train is as safe as possible- for now, and later. I have trained for many years, and can hardly name a handful of individuals (that I have observed personally) who could claim the same.</p>
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